Group thread: Heathrow Gatwick Manchester & other Airport drop-off PCNs - easy: how to appeal & win

doubledotcom

Why are you "fighting" with them? All you need to do is say that as the Keeper you decline to identify the driver and if they are not happy with that, then you refer them to the answer given in Arkell v Pressdram (1971).

Then just get on with your life and ignore anything and everything that follows until it eventually stops.

saginata

doubledotcom said:

Why are you "fighting" with them? 

It's fun  

Browsing03

Coupon-mad said:

That's weird (unless that final image is old).

The charge is £7. It's not been £6 for a while.

It’s definitely £6 for Terminal 2 drop off as recently as 3 weeks ago

Kofi_Cat

Kofi_Cat said:

Gr1pr said:

As above   ( but NCP  )

Don't bother complaining about it to Gatwick Airport 

The non driving,  not even in the country Registered Keeper has no legal liability because schedule 4 of Pofa2012 doesn't apply,  not relevant land 

The complaint link for NCP is listed on the BPA AOS members list on its right hand side , the complaint being made by the RK and no blabbing about who was driving or about the incident itself,  just about no keeper liability so stop contacting me   !  Add any proof of being abroad at the time,  as proving that they were not the driver 

thanks for the info on where to find the complaints link. Have just drafted a response and will make sure it gets submitted (not by me, of course!) tomorrow. Appreciate the help.

Little update from me - had a reponse from NCP this morning:  Based on the information provided, this notice has been cancelled and no further action is required.

Thank you so much for this thread and for your help getting this cancelled!

Coupon-mad

Easy when you know how! 

JDoge

Hi all, 

I have submitted my appeal using the much spoke about template, I have been written too today asking for the following and wondered if this is normal: 

Parking Charge xxxxxxxxxxxx was issued to the registered keeper with the DVLA. It is stated on the

reverse of the Parking Charge ‘As we do not know either the name of the driver or their current address,

we invite you, the Registered Keeper, to pay this Parking Charge or provide us with the name and current

address of the driver.’

We would request that you provide us with the details of the driver or make payment for this charge:

• Name and Surname

• Complete address including postcode

Please provide this information within 14 days of the date of this letter of request.

We have placed your case on hold for 14 days to allow you to comply with this request.

If we do not receive the required evidence/information within 14 days, we will have no choice but to

process your appeal based on the information that we currently hold.

Do i just sit this out and await the 14 days lapse etc? 

thanks community. 

ChirpyChicken

Yes this has been seen before. Just a fishing attempt 

ChirpyChicken

@Coupon-mad
I would suggest we use a much more forthright appeal text 

This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver details will be given. Please do not bother with your known fishing expedition in an attempt to get driver details to try and get around the fact there is no keeper liability (and never can be under POFA)

Due to this being airport land you will be well aware there is NO keeper liability due to the byelaws in force and thus not relevant land.

As there is NO keeper liability then liability cannot flow from the driver to the keeper and thus is an auto win @ POPLA. Please therefore cancel the notice or issue a POPLA code where you will auto withdraw

If you waste your time asking for driver details this will be ignored and you will still lose at POPLA if you dont cancel the PCN

So let's save my time and yours and cancel this PCN you simply cannot win this (and you know it)

Coupon-mad

Done, and adjusted the typo.

naf123

Does the appeal template on the first page apply to Stansted airport? I forgot to pay the charge and expecting a fine in the post soon....