I have a parking fine but not my vehicle

Trainerman

Still begs two questions for me 1) How did the real owner use a document sent to the OP. and 2) Following @Coupon-mad and the idea of intercept how could that happen ??? The only possibilities would seem to be someone who lives with or visits the OP, the postie or someone at DVLA.

I would be concerned about that.

Edit to add ... oddly as well, the 'perp' has both taxed the vehicle and advised sale. Not really the actions one would expect from someone who has deliberately avoided (possibly) all sorts of fines and sanctions

Castle

Trainerman said:

Still begs two questions for me 1) How did the real owner use a document sent to the OP. and 2) Following @Coupon-mad and the idea of intercept how could that happen ??? The only possibilities would seem to be someone who lives with or visits the OP, the postie or someone at DVLA.

I would be concerned about that.

Edit to add ... oddly as well, the 'perp' has both taxed the vehicle and advised sale. Not really the actions one would expect from someone who has deliberately avoided (possibly) all sorts of fines and sanctions

And not forgetting insurance, you would have thought they could find out who has insured the vehicle.

OingoBoingo

Today Feb 9th I received an email from DCBLegal stating their wish to pursue in court:

It says I have 7 days to reply to them by filling in a pdf document Directions questionaire? I am rather nervous today and worried, i'm going to email DVLA again to try to explain I have no connection to their address records for vehicle's tax and sale, but I am wondering what are now my choices and options if the DVLA are not supporting my request for vehicle data correction?

Thanks in advance.

Trainerman

They always do that one. Standard frighteners, but keep you eyes open for a DQ from the Court. Then you do your dq. You still have time to tackle the central issue of real car ownership/getting you name removed by DVLA

KeithP

OingoBoingo said:

It says I have 7 days to reply to them by filling in a pdf document Directions questionaire?

No it doesn't say that at all.
You need to start reading stuff properly.
Their only mention of '7 days' is to get you to phone them and agree a settlement - which of course you won't be doing.

Now go back and re-read that checklist you were using when you filed a Defence.
Item 7 on that list is...

7. Do not be surprised to receive an early copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire and the usual intimidating template letter saying they 'intend to proceed'. Nothing of interest there. Just file it.

The rest of that checklist might be worth another read too.

Coupon-mad

The first 12 steps are in the Template Defence first post that everyone reads when they email their defence.

Those first steps are there to stop you needing to ask us about anything in the first 3 months.

OingoBoingo

Another letter today (Feb 10th) from DCBLegal asking me to show them DVLA correction. Do I wait until I get the 2nd reply from DVLA first? Thanks

Kim_13

As you have a suspicion that it was a subsequent occupier of your previous address, should OP not answer DVLA’s request for an explanation as to how this may have occurred by stating that they moved out of the address in 2016, after which a new occupier could have received a stray item of mail addressed to the OP (mail redirections aren’t 100%) and issued those details to register a car so as to evade responsibility for any transgressions they might commit? After all, that person wouldn’t have needed the OP’s licence number to do this, since the DVLA do not require a vehicle’s keeper to hold a licence to drive it. There is no validation done against the details provided by the previous keeper when a vehicle is transferred, so a nefarious individual absolutely could steal an identity and register a vehicle in it.  

The OP left the address in 2016. Should they furnish evidence of this and if rented, give details of the landlord and suggest they be contacted for the details of the tenant at the date these PCNs were issued in 2018 in order for the DVLA to establish who the likely keeper of the car actually is? And if owned, details of the buyer? OP can presumably evidence (via DVLA if necessary) that they informed the DVLA of their change of address as required of them as a licence holder, and argue that had they ever genuinely been the keeper of the vehicle in question, that would have been updated at the same time. 

While some do forget to update their V5C, surely a licence holder keeping details current on a licence they weren’t using day to day would absolutely not be one of those people.

Once this is over, I would be checking your licence to check that you don’t have any MS90 offences (had the actual keeper of the car committed a motoring offence, NIPs would be issued to you at the address the car was registered at which would get you a failure to furnish and 6 points when they weren’t responded to.) As you’re not actually driving at present, you’re not at risk of driving while disqualified, and reversing any offences is another court process which can only be started within a given period of time from becoming aware of them I believe, so you don’t want to become aware of them until you have the evidence to fight them - which will be whatever eventually clears up the matter of these PCN’s.

Absolutely don’t show or communicate to DCB Legal what the DVLA have sent you so far - in their minds, that will just prove that you lied to them and they’d love that evidence as part of their claim.

OingoBoingo

Sent another reply to the DVLA via email this morning requesting they correct the vehicle record, that I have never taxed the vehicle in question, nor have I sold such vehicle. Thanks.

OingoBoingo

This morning (Feb 14th) I emailed DCBLegal to request they change from 7-days to 30-days to allow the DVLA to process my vehicle correction request and reply.