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  • ladyholly
    ladyholly Posts: 3,908 Forumite
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    Sorry to hear of Mr PIPs dental woes. Getting any treatment except emergency is a nightmare. I have complained to our MP more than once but he changed at the last election and the the new one is just an apologist for the party line.
  • PennysIntoPounds
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    Thanks @ladyholly, the state of, price of, and access to dental care in this country is a national disgrace imo.
    The costs of people taking time off work in pain or being less efficient and able, the mental health effects and alienation from the concept of society from being in pain and feeling helpless for so long, the lesser ability and energy to care for family and community, and the long term associated health effects that then crop up when a person is older and more complex to treat, surely must add up to more than training some effing NHS dentists.
    I'm not even bothering to envisage a society where just basic decency wouldn't leave people in constant pain or price them out of essential healthcare 
  • PennysIntoPounds
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    edited 6 June at 5:16PM
    Still cross about the state of dentistry! Fortunately Mr PIP is finding it okay with antibiotics and painkillers but not really a long-term solution, grr

    Not much to report again, I hiho-ed and did double invigilating, with usuals and build admin done where I could grab a quick moment.

    Went for beer after work, did some listings and admin, dinner is ys pizza

    Happy Friday all 🍻

    Ooh got home to find a full size nivea serum body lotion to try then review, both exciting and mse!

  • Blackcats
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    I hope the antibiotics help the tooth settle down.  I don't know when and how the current system of NHS dentistry snuck in.  It's obviously rooted (excuse the pun) in money making opportunities in private dentistry but there doesn't seem to be any oversight of availability or interventions to improve access to NHS services by Department of Health
  • PennysIntoPounds
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    I know what you mean @Blackcats, it seems so out of kilter with the rest of how this country functions (or even when it doesn't). How can we possibly be living in a Britain where having teeth/not being in agony for months is a privilege. Madness.

    At least I'll temporarily have 'firm, beautiful healthy-looking skin with a radiant glow' all over my body soon thanks to the freebie 😁 Shame no-one will see it as it's layers weather, and Mr PIP will be too distracted with toothache to appreciate it 😂
  • Sun_Addict
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    Although toothache is awful I do have a funny story about it. Many years ago when I was young, free and single, I went out out despite having a raging toothache. A lad I didn’t fancy asked me for a slow dance and I declined giving toothache as a convenient excuse. He said ‘why, do you dance with your teeth’ 🤣 Still amuses me. 
    I get knocked down but I get up again (Chumbawamba, Tubthumping)
  • PennysIntoPounds
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    That is a good story and well done that chap for his response 😂 @Sun_Addict
    (Wait, was it Mr SA and that's how you ended up together? 😁)
  • Sun_Addict
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    That is a good story and well done that chap for his response 😂 @Sun_Addict
    (Wait, was it Mr SA and that's how you ended up together? 😁)
    No it was a few years pre Mr SA. I met Mr SA in a nightclub in the early 80s. Shamefully I was engaged to someone else at the time but we won’t talk about that 😬 He had a perfect 80s long blonde fringe over one eye look as in my then heartthrobs David Sylvian of Japan and John Taylor of Duran Duran and I was hooked. Ironically he doesn’t have any hair now 🤣
    I get knocked down but I get up again (Chumbawamba, Tubthumping)
  • EssexHebridean
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    Oh poor Mr PiP - that must be utterly miserable, and yes, I agree that it’s utterly unacceptable that we are now in a place where simply having pain/infection relieved by actual treatment rather than just covering up the symptoms is not accessible to everyone in a reasonable timescale. 
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  • ladyholly
    ladyholly Posts: 3,908 Forumite
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    Dentistry went really downhill when the government ( I cant remember which one) brought in new contracts for dentists which meant that treatments were put into bands. e.g one filling was paid exactly the same amount as several. There was more to it than that but many dentist found they couldnt cover their costs and make enough to cover their costs and pay themselves a proffessional salary. with that system so became private practitioners. NHS dentists are not paid like most people but are effectively contractors for the NHS who pays them and sets the amount they can charge but they have to provide premises, staff etc.  

    This has led to NHS dentistry being a joke and totally unavailable in many areas.
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