Fluttering ticket parking fine

ParkingScum

Thanks Fruitcake. Incidentally I had to visit the court as they lost my defence so I hand delivered a new one. Its very close to where I live with ample free parking which is a plus. Not to nervous about actually going to court more the chew of having to complete all the admin which gets me nervous ha ha. Just to clarify where you suggesting to post the claimants WS on here when it arrives? I imagine it will just be a print out of my parking penalty notes and photos as I’ve seen in another case.

Fruitcake

There won't be printouts of penalty notices, because you haven't received any penalties. If they send an electronic file by email, there won' be any printouts of anything.

When you post their WS, please tell us what if any redactions the PPC has made, so we can distinguish them from your redactions.

If you have done your defence properly, you should have challenged authority from the landowner, so their WS should include a landowner/landholder contract, plus photos of the signs allegedly in situe at the material time.

Sometimes there is something in the contract that might help a defendant, and often there are stock images of computer files, not photos of signs at the site.

ParkingScum

Update and questions:
Another offer from VCS to pay £200 and the court case will be dropped. They are now threatening to charge me an additional £220 for a local solicitor to attend the hearing if I don’t pay. Their witness statement has also arrived which mentions under CPR 27.9 (1) that an advocate may attend the hearing on their behalf.
Questions: They have previously notified me that they have dropped ELMS solicitors and will be dealing with this themselves. Should a random solicitor turn up on the day DO THEY have right of audience? And can VCS attempt to put this £220 charge against me?

Question 2: Can i refer to things in their witness statement that are incorrect and include them in my witness statement? Or are these to be argued at the hearing? An example being statements they say I’ve made previously that are false.

Question 3: If I’m referencing a previous court case do I need to print out the full transcript or will just paragraph or page I’m referencing do?

patient_dream

ParkingScum said:

Update and questions:
Another offer from VCS to pay £200 and the court case will be dropped. They are now threatening to charge me an additional £220 for a local solicitor to attend the hearing if I don’t pay. Their witness statement has also arrived which mentions under CPR 27.9 (1) that an advocate may attend the hearing on their behalf.
Questions: They have previously notified me that they have dropped ELMS solicitors and will be dealing with this themselves. Should a random solicitor turn up on the day DO THEY have right of audience? And can VCS attempt to put this £220 charge against me?

Can you please post the letter on here. IT'S BLACKMAIL

The County Court system has limited costs for legal fees. In your case it's £50. If they wish to employ ELMS, that is at their own cost

A letter to show the judge if VCS are stupid enough to go to court.
And certainly a letter to send to the Dept of Levelling Up to show them why this industry is a scam

Not_A_Hope

Question 2: Can i refer to things in their witness statement that are incorrect and include them in my witness statement? Or are these to be argued at the hearing? An example being statements they say I’ve made previously that are false.

Question 3: If I’m referencing a previous court case do I need to print out the full transcript or will just paragraph or page I’m referencing do? 

If you have access to their witness statement before you have to submit it is perfectly acceptable to reference any errors and bring them to the attention of the judge.

You can refer to the previous court case in your WS and append the full transcript as one of your exhibits.

My bet is they are trying to frighten you by dramatically increasing the cost before they discontinue before having to pay a hearing fee. They know they can only claim £50 legal fees

ParkingScum

Right thank you. Those £50 legal fees have already been added to the amount claimed at small court. Will post the letter shortly.

ParkingScum

Please see photo of recent threatogram:

ParkingScum

Also any opinions on the ‘right to audience’ should a solicitor turn up on the day and not VCS? 

KeithP

ParkingScum said:

Also any opinions on the ‘right to audience’ should a solicitor turn up on the day and not VCS? 

There is no issue there.
Extremely rarely does the claimant ever attend these hearings. I can't recall the last time we ever heard of that happening.
It is always a solicitor acting on their behalf.

patient_dream

Not_A_Hope said:

Question 2: Can i refer to things in their witness statement that are incorrect and include them in my witness statement? Or are these to be argued at the hearing? An example being statements they say I’ve made previously that are false.

Question 3: If I’m referencing a previous court case do I need to print out the full transcript or will just paragraph or page I’m referencing do?

My bet is they are trying to frighten you by dramatically increasing the cost before they discontinue before having to pay a hearing fee. They know they can only claim £50 legal fees

When Betty Boothroyd, the then Speaker of the Commons, scuppered Captain Clampit AKA Renshaw Smith, with his clamping antics and even when he was banned by the DVLA, THE LESSON WAS NOT LEARNED ????    Now he thinks the courts work for him
The DVLA should ban the SRS group from obtaining personal data as they are not fit for purpose