Octopus Agile

Pat38493

I have changed to variable DD and the savings I've made by being on good tariffs means that I will have nothing to pay probably for 4-5 months due to the existing credit balance running down.

Newbie_John

MultiFuelBurner said:

So the first full month on Agile. Transferred 15th Feb.

Average Agile price for the month is 13.34p kWh which works out 52% cheaper than the Flexible Octopus rate and over 5p kwh cheaper than Tracker or 26% cheaper if percentages float your boat.

December Tracker 2023 v1 would have worked out at 18.5p kWh.

We used 804 kWh (ASHP, largish house with outbuildings that needs heating and work from home)

Agile saved us £41.47 over Tracker and £127.60 over flexible.

I think that since early December almost everyone in UK would have saved at least 33% on their bills.
In the last 2 months all hours outside of 16-19 were about half price, and 16-19 only sometimes slightly higher than SVR.
Keeping in mind that you can leave anytime is in my opinion a no brainer.

This is very visible for larger consumers, my last 30 days - 611kWh, £84 on Agile vs £192 on SVR.
Or since 1/11/2023 about £470 vs £940 

Chrysalis

Newbie_John said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

So the first full month on Agile. Transferred 15th Feb.

Average Agile price for the month is 13.34p kWh which works out 52% cheaper than the Flexible Octopus rate and over 5p kwh cheaper than Tracker or 26% cheaper if percentages float your boat.

December Tracker 2023 v1 would have worked out at 18.5p kWh.

We used 804 kWh (ASHP, largish house with outbuildings that needs heating and work from home)

Agile saved us £41.47 over Tracker and £127.60 over flexible.

I think that since early December almost everyone in UK would have saved at least 33% on their bills.
In the last 2 months all hours outside of 16-19 were about half price, and 16-19 only sometimes slightly higher than SVR.
Keeping in mind that you can leave anytime is in my opinion a no brainer.

This is very visible for larger consumers, my last 30 days - 611kWh, £84 on Agile vs £192 on SVR.
Or since 1/11/2023 about £470 vs £940 

Yeah on average for my region Agile is 2.5-3.5p cheaper than Tracker, and Tracker itself is comfortably cheaper than SVR.  Thats why for me even with high usage in surge hours Agile is still cheaper as the non surge hours its comfortably outperforming Tracker, and this is with higher than average current pricing, I know it can be lower than this, as when I was on Agile. there early mornings with negative pricing.  When those come back I expect the average to be at least a 5p saving over Tracker.

jessmist

Hi,
Is Agile a good tariff even without having solar panels and battery storage  ?
We are at home, most of the time and it would only be cooking tea at the peak rate and my son watching TV or playing on his ps5.
Thanks 

pete-20-11

jessmist said:

Hi,
Is Agile a good tariff even without having solar panels and battery storage  ?
We are at home, most of the time and it would only be cooking tea at the peak rate and my son watching TV or playing on his ps5.
Thanks 

Cooking tea might be the thing to avoid during the peak rate. Could be quite expensive!

Depends if oven, air fryer, microwave, gas hob, as obviously some use more energy than others, but I think I'd avoid cooking at all during the 4-7pm time slot.

Obviously every day is different, but it's more likely to be expensive on average during those times. 

Pat38493

jessmist said:

Hi,
Is Agile a good tariff even without having solar panels and battery storage  ?
We are at home, most of the time and it would only be cooking tea at the peak rate and my son watching TV or playing on his ps5.
Thanks 

I am on Agile and I have no batteries or solar.  We make tea between 4 and 7 at least some of the time and Agile still comes out a lot cheaper than any "normal" tariff, and most days it's cheaper than even the Tracker tariff.

We do have an EV and obviously the savings are much bigger on the days we charge the EV as long as we choose the cheaper hours to charge up.

Also we are quite heavy electric users due to fish pond and large house - our base load is about 12 and typical usage without EV charging when we are home is 18-20KWH per day.  I am not sure how it works out if you are using a lot less electric overall.

jessmist

Thanks for the info  
I'm very tempted to give Agile ago now  

Newbie_John

jessmist said:

Hi,
Is Agile a good tariff even without having solar panels and battery storage  ?
We are at home, most of the time and it would only be cooking tea at the peak rate and my son watching TV or playing on his ps5.
Thanks 

Yes, because you can use battery to store cheap overnight electricity and use during the day (not sure how it works but seen cases of people doing it).

No, as it will significanly prelong the payback time of your solar set up As right now you're paying 30p per kWh and this will drop - recently by half - so if you were hoping for it to pay for itsefl in 10 years it will be now 20 years
But on a more serious note it could work well just will add more alternatives - if there are negative prices duirng sunny July it's better to charge batterry from the grid than solar panels.. 

If you go back in this thread by 10-15 pages and see some ppl making it work quite well.


Nice price rollercoaster Tue cheap, Wed expensive, Th, Fr cheap..
Also I would expect some saving session maybe tomorrow at 6pm and Wednesday all day long :-D

NedS

We have just switched to Agile, and currently do not have solar/batteries/EV etc, and it's working out way cheaper for us, as for 21h per day the rate is well below the fixed (ofgem capped) tariff. If you can shift as much usage outside of the 4-7pm window as possible (washing machine, dishwasher, electric showers etc), I would imagine it will be cheaper for you too. We do have an electric cooker, and do cook our main meals in the evening so this cannot always be shifted, but we just take the hit on those days. I'm waiting to see what yesterday's usage is like having cooked a Sunday roast between 4-7pm. Our largest use is 3 people using a 9kWh electric shower, and there all now happen at off-peak rates of ~13-15p/kWh rather than the flat rate of 28.7p so close to 50% saving on that alone.

We are in the process of switching to ASHP/solar, and anticipate we will save even more with the ASHP running constantly, but switching off/on setback during the 4-7pm peak.

t0rt0ise

I use the app Octopus Compare on my ipad and check every day whether I've saved the previous day compared with what I would have paid staying on tracker. Yesterday I saved 19p over tracker. Not a lot but it will add up over a year. I don't have solar, batteries or an EV. Try the compare app and see.