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Newbie_John

MeteredOut said:

Newbie_John said:

Yeah, I'm glad the cheap hours are after 10am, that gives me an opportunity to see if it may be worth waiting with let's say dishwasher to overnight Th/Fr for possible negative price.  But 1.68p is already so low.. 

I know this is MSE, but do people really delay their dishwasher going on for days to save pennies?

I do delay mine to the overnight IOG 7.5p rate to save about 20p (a standard eco wash uses just over 1kWh), and this will reduce to nearer 16p after July, but I don't think I could leave it like that for a few days.

Tumble driers, I can understand.

Depends how you look at it.
I have solar thermal - so in days like these I have "too much" free hot water so tend to wash dishes by hand in summer. So I can kind of schedule it by washing less, and negative prices work as incentive to do so.

MP1995

When it's low like 1-2p we will run a legionella cycle and if there isn't enough for a load of washing or dishwasher put those on a hot clean cycle to disinfect them

Will charge up the two power stations as well.

Not sure we will put the oven on as the kitchen is already 26oC and I tend to cook outside this time of year.

TheElectricCow

MeteredOut said:

Newbie_John said:

Yeah, I'm glad the cheap hours are after 10am, that gives me an opportunity to see if it may be worth waiting with let's say dishwasher to overnight Th/Fr for possible negative price.  But 1.68p is already so low.. 

I know this is MSE, but do people really delay their dishwasher going on for days to save pennies?

I do delay mine to the overnight IOG 7.5p rate to save about 20p (a standard eco wash uses just over 1kWh), and this will reduce to nearer 16p after July, but I don't think I could leave it like that for a few days.

Tumble driers, I can understand.

Depends on the exact pricing and my dishwashing demand at any given time, but as a single person household where the dishwasher runs 1-2 times a week it absolutely makes sense to delay a day or two when particularly low prices are forecast. 

Then again I also collect the cooled water runoff from the hot pipes each morning before a shower to flush the toilet with, and that saves less than 2p a go. The minor but regular penny savings across each utility bill certainly do add up to a small but worthwhile number of pounds each month in my experience, but naturally won’t be practical for everyone.

In any case, the Guy Lipman site predicts a potentially quite huge negative price spike in the early hours tomorrow morning so I’ll definitely be postponing until the octo-rates come out this afternoon. I’m curious what other sources people prefer for their Agile forecast rates if there’s any other good tools out there?

Newbie_John

In any case, the Guy Lipman site predicts a potentially quite huge negative price spike in the early hours tomorrow morning so I’ll definitely be postponing until the octo-rates come out this afternoon. I’m curious what other sources people prefer for their Agile forecast rates if there’s any other good tools out there?

For next day, published at 10am (divide roughly the UK prices there in EUR by 8):
https://data.nordpoolgroup.com/auction/n2ex/prices?deliveryDate=latest&currency=EUR&aggregation=Hourly&deliveryAreas=NO2,UK
For long term:
https://emoncms.org/ukgrid
The smaller the gap between demand and supply the lower the rate - works fine up to 5 days ahead. When the supply exceeds demand (like tomorrow 5am) negatives are likely - although the Nordpool website indicates closer to +4p/kWh and lowest 12:00-13:00 maybe -1p/kWh.

Th & Fr really good
Sat & Sun average
Mon & Tue good

Anyway, as long as exact values remain mystery till 4pm, this gives a good idea to see what's going in the next few days.

NedS

No negative pricing overnight in my region, but tomorrow we do have negative pricing from 14:30-15:30, 1-2p overnight and less than 1p for most of the day up until 4pm.

MP1995

All indications suggest negative price Thursday so save a few things up.

Netexporter

Something to look forward to. A bit grim, again, tomorrow.

Newbie_John

Thursday will start with a bang 😅
22:30 already 2p..

Netexporter

Yes, I noticed the sudden drop at the end of Wednesday and am anticipating some plunge pricing overnight.

wrf12345

Readings updated on internet but not in the app, for Monday, BTW, and have refreshed it.