Octopus Agile

Telegraph_Sam

There's always a price to pay, if you read the small print ..

Warren_Muppet

With Agile on a negative pricing day if I decide to use a lot more electric than normal but subsequently discover that my half hourly readings haven't worked would I then be charged for the usage at the flexible rate?

Netexporter

I imagine they'd use the average figure for the day. Are your half-hourly figures normally intermittent?

Newbie_John

Warren_Muppet said:

With Agile on a negative pricing day if I decide to use a lot more electric than normal but subsequently discover that my half hourly readings haven't worked would I then be charged for the usage at the flexible rate?

What does it mean "haven't worked"? Sometimes it can take few days for the numbers to arrive.
But I think that the smart meter is able to store the data for a whole year - so if Ocotpus sends someone to fix it they can take readings? 
From other stories I've read it's never a SVR but some sort of prediction based on past usage.. 
Anyway, hopefully it'll fix itself soon.

Telegraph_Sam

Might it be a borderline decision whether to shift consumption into the early afternoons to take max advantage of SW facing solar panels, or do the opposite and go for a time when the off peak Agile tariff gives the best rates?

MP1995

According to emoncms cheaper days incoming Thursday til Sunday so save those kwh munching tasks

Newbie_John

Yeah next days should be nice, but I'm positively surprised by today's prices Vs SVR, quite bad day in general, not much sun, no wind, cold - but 0-16 still 20-40% cheaper, and then 19:30-0 also few % cheaper.

bob2302

Also the profile is strange today, with 8-9 being cheaper than after 11.

bristolleedsfan

Newbie_John said:

Yeah next days should be nice, but I'm positively surprised by today's prices Vs SVR, quite bad day in general, not much sun, no wind, cold - but 0-16 still 20-40% cheaper, and then 19:30-0 also few % cheaper.

I am a bit puzzled reading comparison between day ahead prices and current SVR being as assessment period for unit rates ended prior to 27 February.

Current SVR my region 24.66 p/kWh

Agile - my region

19:00 - 19:30	26.46p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00	26.12p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30	25.36p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00	24.61p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30	24.3p/kWh

NedS

bristolleedsfan said:

Newbie_John said:

Yeah next days should be nice, but I'm positively surprised by today's prices Vs SVR, quite bad day in general, not much sun, no wind, cold - but 0-16 still 20-40% cheaper, and then 19:30-0 also few % cheaper.

I am a bit puzzled reading comparison between day ahead prices and current SVR being as assessment period for unit rates ended prior to 27 February.

Current SVR my region 24.66 p/kWh

Agile - my region

19:00 - 19:30	26.46p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00	26.12p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30	25.36p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00	24.61p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30	24.3p/kWh

It was the same here - Agile prices didn't drop back to the ofgem cap level until 9pm. With prices that high, you would have expected the 4-7pm pricing to have been higher, with the 12p peak rate premium (e.g, maybe 26p + 12p = 38p), but they were lower, meaning pricing was effectively cheaper at 6pm than it was at 8pm. Strange, but not impossible I guess (just not seen that profile before).

We have just had our ASHP installation completed, so hoping for some negative pricing so I can give the heating a thorough test cycle.