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BowieBoy333

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

However it is good that he was shocked and intends to bring it up in Parliament. Sounds like you opened his eyes to the scam.

That is progress.

So far, and interestingly, I haven't heard a thing from CEL since their fake/lying letter about a CCJ . I have had a written court recognition of my defence, dated 3rd March .

Hi. Well it's been over a month now since I received my court recognition letter dated 3rd March. . . And so far , nothing from CEL.

What's your 'court recognition letter'?
Is it a letter from the CCBC advising you that they have received your Defence and sent a copy to the Claimant?
Or is it something else?

Yes that's right Keith, it's the acknowledgement of defense and informing me a copy is sent to the claimant.

KeithP

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

However it is good that he was shocked and intends to bring it up in Parliament. Sounds like you opened his eyes to the scam.

That is progress.

So far, and interestingly, I haven't heard a thing from CEL since their fake/lying letter about a CCJ . I have had a written court recognition of my defence, dated 3rd March .

Hi. Well it's been over a month now since I received my court recognition letter dated 3rd March. . . And so far , nothing from CEL.

What's your 'court recognition letter'?
Is it a letter from the CCBC advising you that they have received your Defence and sent a copy to the Claimant?
Or is it something else?

Yes that's right Keith, it's the acknowledgement of defense and informing me a copy is sent to the claimant.

In that case I will just post my standard stuff...

The CCBC sent you a letter saying the Claimant has twenty eight days to consider your Defence.

What you don't know is when the CCBC sent a copy of your Defence to the Claimant. 

It follows from that that it is not known when the Claimant has to respond to the CCBC. 

Further, we don't know what delays there are in the CCBC that means they don't send you a Directions Questionnaire as promptly as you might like.

Can I suggest that you keep checking your MCOL Claim History and as soon as you see that the CCBC has sent a DQ to you, you are ready to download a DQ, complete it and fire it back at the CCBC, remembering to send a copy to the Claimant of course?

BowieBoy333

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

However it is good that he was shocked and intends to bring it up in Parliament. Sounds like you opened his eyes to the scam.

That is progress.

So far, and interestingly, I haven't heard a thing from CEL since their fake/lying letter about a CCJ . I have had a written court recognition of my defence, dated 3rd March .

Hi. Well it's been over a month now since I received my court recognition letter dated 3rd March. . . And so far , nothing from CEL.

What's your 'court recognition letter'?
Is it a letter from the CCBC advising you that they have received your Defence and sent a copy to the Claimant?
Or is it something else?

Yes that's right Keith, it's the acknowledgement of defense and informing me a copy is sent to the claimant.

In that case I will just post my standard stuff...

The CCBC sent you a letter saying the Claimant has twenty eight days to consider your Defence.

What you don't know is when the CCBC sent a copy of your Defence to the Claimant. 

It follows from that that it is not known when the Claimant has to respond to the CCBC. 

Further, we don't know what delays there are in the CCBC that means they don't send you a Directions Questionnaire as promptly as you might like.

Can I suggest that you keep checking your MCOL Claim History and as soon as you see that the CCBC has sent a DQ to you, you are ready to download a DQ, complete it and fire it back at the CCBC, remembering to send a copy to the Claimant of course?

As always ; thank you for the advice.
I don't for one second,think this is over just because of the time that has elapsed..... I don't think I could be that lucky. But I'm checking the post every day to see what comes.
I will if course keep you informed.

BowieBoy333

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

BowieBoy333 said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

However it is good that he was shocked and intends to bring it up in Parliament. Sounds like you opened his eyes to the scam.

That is progress.

So far, and interestingly, I haven't heard a thing from CEL since their fake/lying letter about a CCJ . I have had a written court recognition of my defence, dated 3rd March .

Hi. Well it's been over a month now since I received my court recognition letter dated 3rd March. . . And so far , nothing from CEL.

What's your 'court recognition letter'?
Is it a letter from the CCBC advising you that they have received your Defence and sent a copy to the Claimant?
Or is it something else?

Yes that's right Keith, it's the acknowledgement of defense and informing me a copy is sent to the claimant.

In that case I will just post my standard stuff...

The CCBC sent you a letter saying the Claimant has twenty eight days to consider your Defence.

What you don't know is when the CCBC sent a copy of your Defence to the Claimant. 

It follows from that that it is not known when the Claimant has to respond to the CCBC. 

Further, we don't know what delays there are in the CCBC that means they don't send you a Directions Questionnaire as promptly as you might like.

Can I suggest that you keep checking your MCOL Claim History and as soon as you see that the CCBC has sent a DQ to you, you are ready to download a DQ, complete it and fire it back at the CCBC, remembering to send a copy to the Claimant of course?

Hi again. Well I've finally received a package from the CCBC. 
A 'notice of proposed allocation to the small claims track' . 
There's an EX730 regarding mediation, and the Directions Questionnaire.
I re-read the newbies thread etc regarding the prospect of mediation and to avoid it, but my question , as well as asking further advice, is do you think mediation would work in my case? Seeing as this whole debacle is down to issues at CELs end (frustration of contract) and that I did in fact have a valid ticket.
What do you think? 

KeithP

As you say, the NEWBIES thread suggests avoid mediation.
I can see no reason to disagree with that, but clearly you can.
You must do what you think best.

BowieBoy333

KeithP said:

As you say, the NEWBIES thread suggests avoid mediation.
I can see no reason to disagree with that, but clearly you can.
You must do what you think best.

I genuinely don't know what to do for the best.

KeithP

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

As you say, the NEWBIES thread suggests avoid mediation.
I can see no reason to disagree with that, but clearly you can.
You must do what you think best.

I genuinely don't know what to do for the best.

Then, like others, I would suggest you follow the well trodden path of saying no to mediation.

It's been said many times on here, but do you understand how mediation works in this situation?

It's been reported by others that it goes something like this...

1) mediator asks defendant "are you willing to pay a somewhat smaller amount than that claimed?" Defendant responds "No, I don't want to pay anything".

2) mediator asks claimant "are you prepared to accept an offer which is less than your claimed amount?" Claimant's rep responds "No, we cannot accept less than the amount claimed".

That has cost you half a day to get nowhere.

Not_A_Hope

The PPC want you to pay their unreasonable charges. You don’t want to pay anything. There isn’t much middle ground there and the mediator will pressurise you to settle their claim. If you settled this case the scammers would see you as a soft touch and start raising court claims for the other PCNs they have issued.

Don't agree to mediation. See them in court and see what a judge thinks of their case and their behaviour.

Coupon-mad

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

As you say, the NEWBIES thread suggests avoid mediation.
I can see no reason to disagree with that, but clearly you can.
You must do what you think best.

I genuinely don't know what to do for the best.

Even though the NEWBIES thread shows you that Mediation = bullying you to settle?

We don't recommend any Defendant ever puts themselves through it. To be clear, the answer to your question is a firm NO.

BowieBoy333

Coupon-mad said:

BowieBoy333 said:

KeithP said:

As you say, the NEWBIES thread suggests avoid mediation.
I can see no reason to disagree with that, but clearly you can.
You must do what you think best.

I genuinely don't know what to do for the best.

Even though the NEWBIES thread shows you that Mediation = bullying you to settle?

We don't recommend any Defendant ever puts themselves through it. To be clear, the answer to your question is a firm NO.

I suppose I was hoping my leverage in mediation would be in using the fact they've lied about already taking me to court and winning. A sort of, I won't take it any further if this is dropped, so to speak .
But I guess that wouldn't work either.