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Coupon-mad

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Email is usually fine if you don't exceed 50 pages for the court to print.  Obviously it isn't emailed to the CCBC at Northampton though.

I had a letter just this morning from Chesterfield county court.
It reads.....

"Before a proper officer sitting at county court if Chesterfield (etc)
Upon the claimant not complying with the order of 6 October 2023 in that they have not paid the hearing fee; 
It is ordered that .
1. The hearing of 16 January 2024 is now vacated.
2. This order has been made on the courts own initiative. Any party affected by this order may apply under CPR rule 3.3 to have it set aside, varied, or stayed. Application must be made by 2pm 5 January 2024."

What does this all mean? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed?

You have won, unless the court missed the payment.  Hold on to all paperwork for 6 months in case, but at this point, you won!

BowieBoy333

Coupon-mad said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Email is usually fine if you don't exceed 50 pages for the court to print.  Obviously it isn't emailed to the CCBC at Northampton though.

I had a letter just this morning from Chesterfield county court.
It reads.....

"Before a proper officer sitting at county court if Chesterfield (etc)
Upon the claimant not complying with the order of 6 October 2023 in that they have not paid the hearing fee; 
It is ordered that .
1. The hearing of 16 January 2024 is now vacated.
2. This order has been made on the courts own initiative. Any party affected by this order may apply under CPR rule 3.3 to have it set aside, varied, or stayed. Application must be made by 2pm 5 January 2024."

What does this all mean? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed?

You have won, unless the court missed the payment.  Hold on to all paperwork for 6 months in case, but at this point, you won!

Fingers crossed this is the final outcome then. But I'll hold on to everything just in case.
Thank you all for the help and advice you've passed on to me , to get me this far. I will let you know if I hear anything else on this particular debacle.

Coupon-mad

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Email is usually fine if you don't exceed 50 pages for the court to print.  Obviously it isn't emailed to the CCBC at Northampton though.

I had a letter just this morning from Chesterfield county court.
It reads.....

"Before a proper officer sitting at county court if Chesterfield (etc)
Upon the claimant not complying with the order of 6 October 2023 in that they have not paid the hearing fee; 
It is ordered that .
1. The hearing of 16 January 2024 is now vacated.
2. This order has been made on the courts own initiative. Any party affected by this order may apply under CPR rule 3.3 to have it set aside, varied, or stayed. Application must be made by 2pm 5 January 2024."

What does this all mean? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed?

You have won, unless the court missed the payment.  Hold on to all paperwork for 6 months in case, but at this point, you won!

Fingers crossed this is the final outcome then. But I'll hold on to everything just in case.
Thank you all for the help and advice you've passed on to me , to get me this far. I will let you know if I hear anything else on this particular debacle.

Now's the time to get sweet revenge:

Deadline extended  until January:

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7972/work-of-the-county-court/

I've been posting a lot about it on threads to encourage victims to tell the Justice Committee that consumers need a bespoke 'parking pre-action protocol' designed to keep cases out of court.

Your case has ruined your peace of mind for ages, only for the Claimant not to bother to pay the hearing fee, after stringing you along for months/years.

This treatment of motorists should be illegal.

Also in your case there was no breach:

"Next thing, is a horrible letter from Civil enforcement ltd. And this has happened over and over during the course of twelve months from January 2022. I have a stack of letters claiming I didn't pay in accordance with rules etc, but I DO have legal valid tickets for every day they contest."

This case was perfect for a proper ADR.

The 'debt claims pre-action protocol' is not fit for purpose for these cases.  The reply form you got months ago with the LBC (before the claim) intrusively asks victims to tell some random thug/rogue ex-clampers all about their household and income/financial position, assumes there is a 'debt' owed under a credit agreement - which there isn't - and the debt claims procedure doesn't match the DLUHC's incoming Code of Practice.

Please show the Inquiry what happened in your case:

Horrible letters for up to a year, then LBC, debt reply form rubbish (calling you a debtor), claim form, wordy 'legalese' letters from the court that favour bulk Claimants and solicitors and bamboozle ordinary people, then finally you get a hearing date, only for the Claimant to drop it because you didn't cave in, like most victims do.

"This inquiry is currently accepting evidence

The committee wants to hear your views. We welcome submissions from anyone with answers to the questions in the call for evidence."

You can submit evidence until Wednesday 17 January 2024.

BowieBoy333

Coupon-mad said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

BowieBoy333 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Email is usually fine if you don't exceed 50 pages for the court to print.  Obviously it isn't emailed to the CCBC at Northampton though.

I had a letter just this morning from Chesterfield county court.
It reads.....

"Before a proper officer sitting at county court if Chesterfield (etc)
Upon the claimant not complying with the order of 6 October 2023 in that they have not paid the hearing fee; 
It is ordered that .
1. The hearing of 16 January 2024 is now vacated.
2. This order has been made on the courts own initiative. Any party affected by this order may apply under CPR rule 3.3 to have it set aside, varied, or stayed. Application must be made by 2pm 5 January 2024."

What does this all mean? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed?

You have won, unless the court missed the payment.  Hold on to all paperwork for 6 months in case, but at this point, you won!

Fingers crossed this is the final outcome then. But I'll hold on to everything just in case.
Thank you all for the help and advice you've passed on to me , to get me this far. I will let you know if I hear anything else on this particular debacle.

Now's the time to get sweet revenge:

Deadline extended  until January:

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7972/work-of-the-county-court/

I've been posting a lot about it on threads to encourage victims to tell the Justice Committee that consumers need a bespoke 'parking pre-action protocol' designed to keep cases out of court.

Your case has ruined your peace of mind for ages, only for the Claimant not to bother to pay the hearing fee, after stringing you along for months/years.

This treatment of motorists should be illegal.

Also in your case there was no breach:

"Next thing, is a horrible letter from Civil enforcement ltd. And this has happened over and over during the course of twelve months from January 2022. I have a stack of letters claiming I didn't pay in accordance with rules etc, but I DO have legal valid tickets for every day they contest."

This case was perfect for a proper ADR.

The 'debt claims pre-action protocol' is not fit for purpose for these cases.  The reply form you got months ago with the LBC (before the claim) intrusively asks victims to tell some random thug/rogue ex-clampers all about their household and income/financial position, assumes there is a 'debt' owed under a credit agreement - which there isn't - and the debt claims procedure doesn't match the DLUHC's incoming Code of Practice.

Please show the Inquiry what happened in your case:

Horrible letters for up to a year, then LBC, debt reply form rubbish (calling you a debtor), claim form, wordy 'legalese' letters from the court that favour bulk Claimants and solicitors and bamboozle ordinary people, then finally you get a hearing date, only for the Claimant to drop it because you didn't cave in, like most victims do.

"This inquiry is currently accepting evidence

The committee wants to hear your views. We welcome submissions from anyone with answers to the questions in the call for evidence."

You can submit evidence until Wednesday 17 January 2024.

I will get involved in this.