Civil enforcement ltd

BowieBoy333

B789 said:

https:\/\/forums.moneysavingexpert.com\/discussion\/comment\/80029346#Comment_80029346<\/a><\/p>

I'm really sorry, but I can't seem to locate any thread relating to D1 Suitability etc.<\/p>

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Information about hearings is in the second lost of the NEWBIES thread.<\/p>

Magistrates Court is for criminal cases.
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https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80029374#Comment_80029374

https://www.dropbox.com/s/73d6bfbfvogtp4e/N180_DQ_QD1_response.pdf?dl=0

Thank you so much.

BowieBoy333

Hi once again. It's been quite a while since I last posted on this issue. That's simply been because there was nothing to report.
However - that changed this morning when I received a letter entitled
GENERAL FORM OF JUDGEMENT OR ORDER.
I have copied and pasted what it contains. 
I'm not exactly sure what this means, but it sounds like CEL haven't provided much evidence.

**"On 21 August 2023 Deputy District Judge Haythorne considered the papers It was noted that the Particulars of Claim are not sufficiently detailed to enable the Defendant to properly defend the claim. In particular the Particulars of Claim do not detail the alleged breach of the terms and conditions

IT IS ORDERED THAT

1 The Claimant most by 4pm on 8 September 2023 send to the Court and so the Defendant a fully particularised Particulars of Claim which sets out the basis of the claim, details of the relevant terms and conditions and fall details of the alleged breaches of those terms, and which otherwise complies with the Civil Procedure Rules Part 16.4.

2 The Defendant has permission to amend the Defence. Any amended Defence must be sent to the Court and

to the Claimant by pm on 22 September 2023,

3. This matter shall be referred back to the District Judge on the first available date after 22 September 2023 for further directions.

Dated 21 August 2023"**


Any ideas ?

KeithP

That is good.

It simply means that a judge has looked at the Particulars of Claim on the Claim Form and decided that they are woefully inadequate.

The Claimant has been instructed to try again and once that has been done, the Defendant is given the opportunity to revise their Defence to address the more detailed Particulars.

Keep your eye on those dates and complain to the court if you haven't received the revised particulars by 4pm on 8th September - just two weeks away.

Coupon-mad

Brilliant! Which court ordered that?

Expect to get full POC and show us so we can advise if it's worth amending your defence.

IMHO YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE THE TEMPLATE DEFENCE HAS CHANGED SINCE FEBRUARY.

BowieBoy333

The letter doesn't actually flesh out what the particulars of the claim, that have been deemed inadequate, are.
I tried to share a picture of the actual letter, but I appear to be struggling with permission.
However, the content of the letter is exactly as I copied and pasted in the earlier post.
In the top box, it also says IN THE COUNTY COURT AT CHESTERFIELD.
That's the one I chose.

BowieBoy333

To answer the question of how much is the claim for-
Amount claimed - £183.94
Court fee             -  £35.00
Legal rep cost    - £ 50.00
TOTAL AMOUNT £268.94

Coupon-mad

The POC are in the claim form on the left.  Please copy them here so we can see.

Only one single PCN then.

BowieBoy333

For some reason it isn't allowing me to share an image here.
I will try again.

KeithP

BowieBoy333 said:

For some reason it isn't allowing me to share an image here.
I will try again.

For some reason, I cannot offer any suggestions on that.
Perhaps if you were to give some detail of what you are trying and what response you are getting, maybe someone can help you.

BowieBoy333

Claim for money relating to parking charge for breach of contract terms/conditions (tcs) for parking in private car park (cp) managed by claimant. Drivers may only park pursuant to tcs of use displayed in cpand agreed upon entry/parking. ANPR cameras or manual patrols monitor vehicles entering/exiting the cp and tc breaches. Charges of 170.00 claimed. Violation date 24/01/2022. Payment due date 22/02/2022
Time in 07.56 time out 13.24
Pcn ref...
Vehicle reg (Removed by Forum Team) etc
Worksop miners welfare hall

Total due 170.00
Pay www.ce-service.co.uk or 01158225020
The claimant claims the sum of 183.94
For the unpaid parking charge inc. 13.94 interest under S.69 of the CCA 1984
Rate 8.00% pa from due date to 02/02/2023
Same rate to judgement or sooner payment at daily rate of 0.04 total debt and interest due 183.94



*Sorry for the delay this took. I still couldn't share an image, so I typed it out instead*