Can this toilet be moved?

diystarter7

Out on a visit to a client's home/rental I was staggered to see a bedroom have no window, in was in a HA townhouse in London. This must have bee approx 15 years ago. Up until then I thought all habiatal rooms needed window or at least some form of daylight.  I thought it may have been a bigger room converted into 2 but never looked into it.

lookstraightahead

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

1930s (like almost  all London, apparently)

And how noisy do you think the road was at night time in the 1930s?

We'll, I don't know how many cars and coaches/horses/other transport means were circulating, but London was already very crowded.
If you have a garden at the back  and a road facing part at the front, why choose the road facing one?
It seems natural to choose the garden side for a bedroom for two people

The house I'm in would have been much noisier around the back by our garden as that's where people would park their horses and carts.

Ath_Wat

Gycraig said:

Ksw3 said:

We have a windowless bathroom. I hate it. Can't wait to move but then I also hate stairs in lounges so each to their own!

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

People can crash through it while you are in the bath and fall in in Carry On films.

jrawle

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. I know people will say a bathroom is only used for a short time, but I wonder how many people leave their bathroom and toilet lights on all the time.

pieroabcd

jrawle said:

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. 

I would add a minimum.area of at least 3mx3m and a min height of at least 2.70m:-)

user1977

jrawle said:

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. I know people will say a bathroom is only used for a short time, but I wonder how many people leave their bathroom and toilet lights on all the time.

Given how trivial the cost of LED lighting is these days - how is that going to compare with the additional heat lost through the window?

Would make a mess of the design of most modern flats (or conversions) if every bathroom had to be shifted to an external wall and an additional window created.

Gavin83

jrawle said:

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. I know people will say a bathroom is only used for a short time, but I wonder how many people leave their bathroom and toilet lights on all the time.

Does anyone really leave their bathroom/toilet light on all the time? I can't think of a single person I know who does.

I think user1977 raises a good point too. The cost of heat loss through the window is likely to be higher than the cost of lighting. Lighting will be a small part of your electric bill.

I've lived in several houses with windowless bathrooms. They didn't really bother me although the wife definitely prefers a window. A problem with a window is if it's overlooked. I find quite often frosted glass isn't quite as opaque as the owners clearly think it is!

pieroabcd said:

jrawle said:

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. 

I would add a minimum.area of at least 3mx3m and a min height of at least 2.70m:-)

I know I'm in a minority here but I've never understood the appeal of high ceilings. Standard 2.4m seems more than sufficient to me.

lookstraightahead

jrawle said:

Gycraig said:

Literally just noticed our en suite doesn’t have a window, our other one does but it’s frosted and always closed. What’s the benefit of a window in a bathroom ? 

Natural light! I always think a bathroom with no window feels like a hotel room en-suite (the Travelodge sort that you might stay in for a business trip) so not something I want to reproduce at home. I think it should also be in building regs that every room has to have a window to save energy on lighting. I know people will say a bathroom is only used for a short time, but I wonder how many people leave their bathroom and toilet lights on all the time.

The best thing yips can do in a bathroom is remove the bath for starters,

YoungBlueEyes

lookstraightahead said:

The best thing yips can do in a bathroom is remove the bath for starters,

Yips can do as they please, but I love my bath! 😁

diystarter7

OP
Not sure if this has been said before - but just get a free quote and see what some builder/bathroom expert has to say then at least you will get an opinion from an onsite visit - not saying they will be accurate as you only find that out when the works go ahead.