Can this toilet be moved?

ReadingTim

Given you're creating a windowless cupboard with a toilet in it, you might want to have a think about fitting an extractor fan, and also where that fan might extract to....

Section62

pieroabcd said:

It seems natural to choose the garden side for a bedroom for two people

Natural for you.  Others would say the opposite.

This type of 1930's property typically has two double bedrooms - when they were built it was quite common for a second couple to live in the house to help with affordability until the owner's family was bigger and their financial position was more secure.

Making substantial alterations is an expensive business.  Before doing that, make sure the way you are changing it will retain (if not enhance) the current saleability/value.

jrawle

Section62 said:

Making substantial alterations is an expensive business.  Before doing that, make sure the way you are changing it will retain (if not enhance) the current saleability/value.

Indeed, given than (for right or wrong) in this country, properties are usually marketed according to number of bedrooms, this plan is likely to reduce the value. In the plan above, it would also be difficult to re-instate the small front bedroom as that would leave nowhere for a door to the master bedroom.

Personally, I would also not buy a house where the bathroom had no window. But then I would also not buy a house with no bath. Other people's preferences of course may vary.

Ath_Wat

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

1930s (like almost  all London, apparently)

And how noisy do you think the road was at night time in the 1930s?

We'll, I don't know how many cars and coaches/horses/other transport means were circulating, but London was already very crowded.
If you have a garden at the back  and a road facing part at the front, why choose the road facing one?
It seems natural to choose the garden side for a bedroom for two people

Believe it or not, some people like their children to have quiet bedrooms.

Not much point having your bedroom overlooking the nice quiet garden if the baby wakes you up every time a car goes past.

Ath_Wat

jrawle said:

Section62 said:

Making substantial alterations is an expensive business.  Before doing that, make sure the way you are changing it will retain (if not enhance) the current saleability/value.

Indeed, given than (for right or wrong) in this country, properties are usually marketed according to number of bedrooms, this plan is likely to reduce the value. In the plan above, it would also be difficult to re-instate the small front bedroom as that would leave nowhere for a door to the master bedroom.

Personally, I would also not buy a house where the bathroom had no window. But then I would also not buy a house with no bath. Other people's preferences of course may vary.

I mean, that's really not that difficult or expensive to change, assuming you have the space.  It's something you could even do before selling if it did affect the value by more than the cost of having a bath put in.

The window of course is far more of an issue.

pieroabcd

Ath_Wat said:

Believe it or not, some people like their children to have quiet bedrooms.

Not much point having your bedroom overlooking the nice quiet garden if the baby wakes you up every time a car goes past.

UHm, actually i thought that children were "allocated" to the boxroom for a few years, that is on the road side.

pieroabcd

jrawle said:

Section62 said:

Making substantial alterations is an expensive business.  Before doing that, make sure the way you are changing it will retain (if not enhance) the current saleability/value.

Indeed, given than (for right or wrong) in this country, properties are usually marketed according to number of bedrooms, this plan is likely to reduce the value. In the plan above, it would also be difficult to re-instate the small front bedroom as that would leave nowhere for a door to the master bedroom.

Personally, I would also not buy a house where the bathroom had no window. But then I would also not buy a house with no bath. Other people's preferences of course may vary.

Yes, but I noticed that people have started to realise that the value of the boxroom as bedroom is very questionable, or absent.
In two years that I've been following the market obsessively (literally every day like a part time job) I've noticed that nowadays high quality houses with 2 larger bedrooms are priced the same as houses with 2.5 bedrooms (where 0.5 is the boxroom).

Your concern about the toilet without windows is very reasonable, though. Actually I'm beginning to wonder how my current toilet is not developing mould.

pieroabcd

ReadingTim said:

Given you're creating a windowless cupboard with a toilet in it, you might want to have a think about fitting an extractor fan, and also where that fan might extract to....

of course, if i decide to take that avenue

user1977

pieroabcd said:

jrawle said:

Section62 said:

Making substantial alterations is an expensive business.  Before doing that, make sure the way you are changing it will retain (if not enhance) the current saleability/value.

Indeed, given than (for right or wrong) in this country, properties are usually marketed according to number of bedrooms, this plan is likely to reduce the value. In the plan above, it would also be difficult to re-instate the small front bedroom as that would leave nowhere for a door to the master bedroom.

Personally, I would also not buy a house where the bathroom had no window. But then I would also not buy a house with no bath. Other people's preferences of course may vary.

Yes, but I noticed that people have started to realise that the value of the boxroom as bedroom is very questionable, or absent..

I would think it still has a fair amount of value even if not in regular use as a bedroom. We haven't seen the rest of the floor plans, but is there suitable space elsewhere for a study, for example?

pieroabcd

user1977 said:

I would think it still has a fair amount of value even if not in regular use as a bedroom. We haven't seen the rest of the floor plans, but is there suitable space elsewhere for a study, for example?

At the ground floor there's a big lounge. The kitchen is in a big extension in the garden. Upstairs there's a loft extension with bathroom whose only problem is that it's only 2 metres high.

Personally I could never work in a study as small as the boxroom. I would feel suffocating all the time, especially in summer. I can't stand the heat.
Matter of tastes :-)