Can this toilet be moved?

pieroabcd

diystarter7 said:

pieroabcd said:

diystarter7 said:

Hi
Re toilet, any w/c can be moved, but you may see the new pipes so box in or get a macerator w/c

Re knocking down of walls and assuming, please be careful as some walls that don't look (to the untrianed eye) as though they are load bearing may well be so professional advice is always called for.

Of course I would involve a structural engineer, but I need to understand if it's already been done before or if an engineer thinks that it's feasible.
Btw, I would replace the bathtub with a shower

Ok, but you did not say that in your OP
Is the shower gooing to be level access?

Raised by 20cm at least

Section62

pieroabcd said:

In the lounge there's no wall on the vertical of the wall separating bedrooms 2 and 3, so I assume that that wall is not load bearing.

It is possible there was a wall downstairs which has been removed, and/or a beam in the ground/1st floor ceiling.

'Load bearing' is not just about what is above and below, some walls provide lateral support/restraint to other parts of the structure.  I'd be surprised if there was nothing structural in the left-right direction on your plan to give lateral support to the flank walls.

martindow

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

pieroabcd

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

user1977

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

pieroabcd

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

1930s (like almost  all London, apparently)

user1977

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

1930s (like almost  all London, apparently)

And how noisy do you think the road was at night time in the 1930s?

pieroabcd

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

user1977 said:

pieroabcd said:

martindow said:

If your aim is to have two larger bedrooms, might it be simpler to leave the bathroom where it is, remove the wall between bedrooms 2 and 4 retaining the bedroom 4 door and move the bedroom 2/3 wall towards the front of the house? 

How simple it would be depends on the structural issues that others have raised.

Yes, it's simpler, but it's annoying to have the master bedroom on the road instead of on the garden.
I always wonder what passed in the builders' minds when they designed master bedrooms like this.

Who would ever want to have it on the most noisy place of the house? Very poor design

When was the house built?

1930s (like almost  all London, apparently)

And how noisy do you think the road was at night time in the 1930s?

We'll, I don't know how many cars and coaches/horses/other transport means were circulating, but London was already very crowded.
If you have a garden at the back  and a road facing part at the front, why choose the road facing one?
It seems natural to choose the garden side for a bedroom for two people

Ramouth

Would this work instead?  (Subject to structural survey of the dividing wall)

pieroabcd

Ramouth, yes it's the second best. After all what matters most for me is the available space. I really hate boxrooms