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  • otb666
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    edited 18 November 2022 at 9:19PM
    i would go back to the meter and as previously suggested check you are not using the total day and night rate as one of the registers in error, dont go by register id, click through displays write down all readings including test and post on here.  I would also take daily reads for 7 days to see whats occurring as its quite possible your night rate is recording day units and the high Register I read was used with electric heating previously.  Do not assume Registers are matching bill Do a load test (on most companies websites how to do this for both registers)
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  • Gerry1
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    edited 18 November 2022 at 11:11PM
    macman said:
    Am I missing something here? The OP has gas CH and DHW, but is on E7. They have no immersion heater or NSH's, but are burning 3 times the UK average of electricity, and about 40% of that is on expensive peak rate. So it's hardly surprising that the leccy bill is so high. The OP needs to immediately switch to a single rate tariff, on a smart meter. So the first issue is single rate, not dual rate tariff. This is probably a classic case of the LL updating the property some years ago, installing CH, but not changing the metering.
    Second issue: huge excessive usage of electricity. Perhaps the OP can focus on how they are managing to use nearly 4,000kWh overnight annually? There is clearly something that is draining a lot of power around the clock, since day usage is also more than double, but it should be relatively simple to identify all that night-time usage.
    If not, I'd be considering the possibility of a faulty meter, rare though that is.
    If the OP is genuinely using 5882kWh in the day and 3656kWh at night (which does seem very unlikely) then single rate might well be significantly more expensive.  The OP hasn't said which region they are in, but trying out a couple at random the increases with single rate were £160 and £195.  EdF's E7 rates vary dramatically between regions.
    Agreed, the real issue is that the consumption seems absolutely crazy for a property with GCH.  Mis-read meter, meter relating to a different property or even a faulty meter seem the likely reasons.
  • macman
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    edited 18 November 2022 at 11:29PM
    Fair point about E7 rates, but the only reason that E7 would theoretically be cheaper is because the OP is allegedly using 40% of their total leccy consumption on cheap rate! We know that can't be correct and is likely to be less than 10%, unless they are nocturnal. 
    Once that issue is resolved, single rate must be cheaper. 
    But first, OP should check the basics as a priority: meter serial nos cross-check, load test etc, as the quoted leccy usage is not credible.
    I don't quite understand why the OP has said 'we don't have E7 heating', but is aware that they are on an E7 tariff?
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  • Gerry1
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    edited 19 November 2022 at 12:00AM
    E7 could be sometimes be cheaper even night usage as low as 15 - 20%.  I switched to an E7 meter many years ago even though I had GCH.  More recently, I switched between E7 and standard rate depending on the which was the cheaper when a fix came to an end.
    It's noticeable that the difference between the (surcharged) day rate and the night rate can now be extreme, presumably because of EVs.
  • Hi OP - good to see lots of folk already helping on this one! 

    First thing I would say is that you need to go and take a look at your meter in daytime to start with, and - assuming it’s a standard digital meter - see which rate is physically showing to you before you press any buttons. Note the reading, and also whether it shows “R1” or “R2”. Then - and this one is less palatable I’m afraid - you need to check it again while the off peak rate would be in operation (currently mine is 0000 > 0700) and do the same thing - see what is showing, and which register.  Suppliers frequently assume that R1 is always day but that’s not always the case - my day rate is on R2, so let’s rule out that confusion for a start. For each reading time, also note what is going on with the little red led lights on the meter - are either on? Is one just flashing?  Is one on solidly with the other flashing? 

    Do you run appliances overnight at all? Washing machine, dishwasher etc? If so, how often? Are there still any of the old storage heaters anywhere at all in the house? 
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  • Robin9
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    OP's night time use is as much as some who have storage rads.

    Is there perhaps underfloor still connected ?

    OP could we have a photo of your consumer units (there may be two)  showing the lables for the various circuits please ?
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  • @Robin9 Our total usage over the past 12 months is currently at under 4200kWh - for everything apart from the cooker which is gas - so yes, OP is definitely not looking like a light user, right now! 
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    Balance as at 31/08/24 = £105,400.00 Balance as at 31/12/24 = £102,500.00
    Balance as at 31/08/25 = £ 95,450.00
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  • macman
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    Hot tubs, bitcoin mining, herbal horticultural enterprise in the loft maybe? 
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Alnat1
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    You forgot to ask about reptiles and heat lamps!

    At least my tortoises are now in hibernation, cosy in the fridge until March.
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  • At 10kw an hour your electric shower would cost you £4.70 an hour, so even a 20 min shower is costing over £1.50. 
    Maybe you could get rid of the electric shower?
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