Fixed price tariff

BevBeaver

Robin9 said:

When you say you are submitting your electricity reads are you submitting TWO readings - one for day and one for night. 

If you agree with the estimates  then for a gas heated house your consumption is very high.  Don't say what appliances you haven't got -  what do you have ?    Think electric shower, heating, cooking, gaming PC's, pond pumps, fish tanks .......... ignore your phone chargers

Yes R1 and R2 readings given online every time they ask. It even confirms that they receive them but they aren’t input !

Gerry1

BevBeaver said:

I don’t have long electric showers

Having an electric shower is a BIG problem.  Allowing for boiler inefficiency, an electric shower using daytime electricity is costing you more than three times as much.

Robin9

Gerry1 said:

BevBeaver said:

I don’t have long electric showers

Having an electric shower is a BIG problem.  Allowing for boiler inefficiency, an electric shower using daytime electricity is costing you more than three times as much.

@BevBeaver Limit yourself to 5 mins once a day

victor2

BevBeaver said:

Robin9 said:

@BevBeaver  These estimates are showing a very high night use  and an even higher day use


Can we have todays reads please

Day rate 55414
night rate 19237
gas 18701

So, they're reasonably close to the estimates, but extremely high both day and night.

Does your hot water tank have an electrical switch by it?

Your annual usage for electricity works out at just over 10,000kWh, which is way above average, assuming winter and summer usage are fairly equal.

Can't extrapolate your gas as the figures don't include a winter.

BevBeaver

Gerry1 said:

BevBeaver said:

I don’t have long electric showers

Having an electric shower is a BIG problem.  Allowing for boiler inefficiency, an electric shower using daytime electricity is costing you more than three times as much.

We don’t have an electric shower

Gerry1

Check that the serial numbers on the meters are the same as those on your bill.  Are the meters wholly within your property, or are they in a meter cupboard or meter room?

New builds can be a problem with meters not being matched to the correct properties.  That might also explain why your readings aren't being recorded.  It's not impossible that a neighbour is enjoying tropical temperatures with long hot showers and is wondering why their bills are always so low.

Jyana

BevBeaver said:

We rent and have been here for 3 years so the house possibly had economy 7 heating in the past. I don’t have long electric showers however that sounds nice. No floodlights or anything else. I have pc on during the day as work from home and occasionally tv. In evening we probably run two baths and have one shower in total. No heating on. Also two gaming pcs on in evening. That’s about it other than cooking 

What are the gaming PC's doing? They are very power hunger and could be using a large amount of electricity by themselves, especially if used constantly, with multiple screens, or for crypto, etc.

Other high consumption items could be fridges, freezers, fish tanks/ponds. As some other people have said, there are some great posts to look through if you want to get an idea of how other people identified their over usage and got it under control. This one in particular is one people recommend - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6379621/oct-price-cap-increase-likely-to-push-energy-bill-to-over-10k-for-a-family-of-4/p1

Spoonie_Turtle

One thing you could do is go through, room by room, every part of your property (including the garden/garage/wherever outside as applicable) and actually make a list of everything that uses electricity.  Then you can narrow down the likely suspects for what could be using a lot and then test them all with a plug-in monitor.  Obviously some things you can't, e.g. wired in applicances, immersion heater, etc. but you'll at least be in a better position to audit where it could possibly/likely be going.

macman

Am I missing something here? The OP has gas CH and DHW, but is on E7. They have no immersion heater or NSH's, but are burning 3 times the UK average of electricity, and about 40% of that is on expensive peak rate. So it's hardly surprising that the leccy bill is so high. The OP needs to immediately switch to a single rate tariff, on a smart meter. So the first issue is single rate, not dual rate tariff. This is probably a classic case of the LL updating the property some years ago, installing CH, but not changing the metering.
Second issue: huge excessive usage of electricity. Perhaps the OP can focus on how they are managing to use nearly 4,000kWh overnight annually? There is clearly something that is draining a lot of power around the clock, since day usage is also more than double, but it should be relatively simple to identify all that night-time usage.
If not, I'd be considering the possibility of a faulty meter, rare though that is.

Spoonie_Turtle

macman said:

Second issue: huge excessive usage of electricity. Perhaps the OP can focus on how they are managing to use nearly 4,000kWh overnight annually? There is clearly something that is draining a lot of power around the clock, since day usage is also more than double, but it should be relatively simple to identify all that night-time usage.

That's the main mystery.  On any tariff that's going to be expensive, AND on top of a gas bill as well.