Loop App - Turn Down and Save

mysteryUser

Mstty said:

mysteryUser said:

I signed up to this early on and took place in an event on 12th December. 

I've had zero invites since then for any other events, is it just me having this issue?

I had this issue once with loop and through a series of their help and emailing the national grid ESO team I found out my energy supplier had picked my name out of the hat (eon next) and put me forward for the same event. National grid saw two requests for my MPAN and rejected both. I had to ask Eon to stop and changed my profile to remove marketing and half hourly reads. Next event I was back in.

If I hadn't bothered tracking down the issue both would have tried putting me forward which sounds what might have happened to you.

Thanks! Interesting one.

I'm a customer of Sainsbury's Energy (E.On Next reseller). As far as i know, Sainsbury's don't offer the service to customers directly, which is why I opted for Loop. I've emailed Loop this evening, so shall see what comes of that. 

Shedman

The savings are clearly biased towards those with ASHP/GSHPs who switch it off and save quite a few kWH, unlike us GH people, so I wasn't going to bother to consent for Thursday but thought what the hell nothing to lose.  Didn't even try to cut usage particularly so was very surprised when I got the email to say I'd made a magnificent £1.73 (still every little counts,..).  For this Thursdays tomorrows one the wife's going to have to sit in the dark with the telly off whether she likes it or not 😅

Mstty

Shedman said:

The savings are clearly biased towards those with ASHP/GSHPs who switch it off and save quite a few kWH, unlike us GH people, so I wasn't going to bother to consent for Thursday but thought what the hell nothing to lose.  Didn't even try to cut usage particularly so was very surprised when I got the email to say I'd made a magnificent £1.73 (still every little counts,..).  For this Thursdays one the wife's going to have to sit in the dark with the telly off whether she likes it or not 😅

Completely wrong. It is all about what you use in the 3 hour in day period. That's the key to the current national grid ESO DFS formula.

As an example now we know there is an event tomorrow the dishwasher isn't going on tonight it's going on at 1:30pm tomorrow (the start of the in day adjustment period) there will be two loads of washing, 2 Tumbledryer loads. We will shift our legionella burn to tomorrow. We will also do some batch cooking in the oven. Plus other shifting.

Shedman

Mstty said:

Shedman said:

The savings are clearly biased towards those with ASHP/GSHPs who switch it off and save quite a few kWH, unlike us GH people, so I wasn't going to bother to consent for Thursday but thought what the hell nothing to lose.  Didn't even try to cut usage particularly so was very surprised when I got the email to say I'd made a magnificent £1.73 (still every little counts,..).  For this Thursdays one the wife's going to have to sit in the dark with the telly off whether she likes it or not 😅

Completely wrong. It is all about what you use in the 3 hour in day period. That's the key to the current national grid ESO DFS formula.

As an example now we know there is an event tomorrow the dishwasher isn't going on tonight it's going on at 1:30pm tomorrow (the start of the in day adjustment period) there will be two loads of washing, 2 Tumbledryer loads. We will shift our legionella burn to tomorrow. We will also do some batch cooking in the oven. Plus other shifting.

OK.  Will have to try some of those tactics. But I thought they took a base line for the event time from the previous 10 days usage at that time but then made a slight adjustment if usage on the day was higher in the 1 to 3 hours before the event as a sort of weather compensation factor.  Do they adjust your baseline by the whole of that 'excess' use in those 3 hours (divided by 3) or just a percentage?  

Even if the former I reckon we'd have to have everything electrical in the house going for those 3 hours to get anywhere even close to the savings you seem to be able to make ..still all power [sic] to you anyway 👍

EDIT:  just saw one of your earlier posts and think that answers my question thanks.  So will give it good go tomorrow. Shame the washing got done today but I'm sure we can find more

michaels

Shedman said:

Mstty said:

Shedman said:

The savings are clearly biased towards those with ASHP/GSHPs who switch it off and save quite a few kWH, unlike us GH people, so I wasn't going to bother to consent for Thursday but thought what the hell nothing to lose.  Didn't even try to cut usage particularly so was very surprised when I got the email to say I'd made a magnificent £1.73 (still every little counts,..).  For this Thursdays one the wife's going to have to sit in the dark with the telly off whether she likes it or not 😅

Completely wrong. It is all about what you use in the 3 hour in day period. That's the key to the current national grid ESO DFS formula.

As an example now we know there is an event tomorrow the dishwasher isn't going on tonight it's going on at 1:30pm tomorrow (the start of the in day adjustment period) there will be two loads of washing, 2 Tumbledryer loads. We will shift our legionella burn to tomorrow. We will also do some batch cooking in the oven. Plus other shifting.

OK.  Will have to try some of those tactics. But I thought they took a base line for the event time from the previous 10 days usage at that time but then made a slight adjustment if usage on the day was higher in the 1 to 3 hours before the event as a sort of weather compensation factor.  Do they adjust your baseline by the whole of that 'excess' use in those 3 hours (divided by 3) or just a percentage?  Even if the former I reckon we'd have to have everything electrical in the house going for those 3 hours to get anywhere even close to the savings you seem to be able to make ..still all power [sic] to you anyway 👍

It is the period between 4 hours and 1 hour before the event so 1:30 - 4:30 tomorrow.  Last session we used 45kwh in this period (two EVs, immersion, dishwasher, washing machine, electric heaters etc etc)

Mstty

Shedman said:

Mstty said:

Shedman said:

The savings are clearly biased towards those with ASHP/GSHPs who switch it off and save quite a few kWH, unlike us GH people, so I wasn't going to bother to consent for Thursday but thought what the hell nothing to lose.  Didn't even try to cut usage particularly so was very surprised when I got the email to say I'd made a magnificent £1.73 (still every little counts,..).  For this Thursdays one the wife's going to have to sit in the dark with the telly off whether she likes it or not 😅

Completely wrong. It is all about what you use in the 3 hour in day period. That's the key to the current national grid ESO DFS formula.

As an example now we know there is an event tomorrow the dishwasher isn't going on tonight it's going on at 1:30pm tomorrow (the start of the in day adjustment period) there will be two loads of washing, 2 Tumbledryer loads. We will shift our legionella burn to tomorrow. We will also do some batch cooking in the oven. Plus other shifting.

OK.  Will have to try some of those tactics. But I thought they took a base line for the event time from the previous 10 days usage at that time but then made a slight adjustment if usage on the day was higher in the 1 to 3 hours before the event as a sort of weather compensation factor.  Do they adjust your baseline by the whole of that 'excess' use in those 3 hours or just a percentage?  Even if the former I reckon we'd have to have everything electrical in the house going for those 3 hours to get anywhere even close to the savings you seem to be able to make ..still all power [sic] to you anyway 👍

A very quick rule of thumb for us has been total usage in the 3 hour period in kWh divided by 3 multiplied by the reward amount. (The first spreadsheet I created to the formula in the end broke me but this gets me close to the reward amount as a rough guide) some say they get it bang on but no one has produced a spreadsheet for the calculation as yet.

The 10 days just appears to be more or less the basis for reduction period measurement. We will aim for 27kwh of energy usage tomorrow. Non frivolous just shifted from today, tomorrow and the next day. Payout should be around £22.50 if all goes to plan.

Alnat1

Shedman said:

 Shame the washing got done today but I'm sure we can find more

 I'm pretty sure you need to wash your washer tomorrow. It hasn't had a 90C cleaning run done for a while has it? Stick it on at 1.30 with a couple of dishwasher tabs in the drum. You'll get rewarded for having a lovely clean, fresh washing machine 

Shedman

Thanks all.  For some reason I've been very remiss on this one (which is odd for me) and clearly didn't cotton on to the 'rules'.  At my current per kWh rate of 19.5p then each kWh used in that 3 hour window effectively yields a minimum of 4.25 fold return (ignoring any further upside from time shifting usage).  Will have to make amends on that.  

mysteryUser

Can anyone suggest the next best alternative to the Loop turn down and save?

They've not been inviting me to any sessions lately, their support are suggesting it'd because i "unsubscribed from certain email preferences", although I didn't unsubscribe from Turn Down and Save.

Think it's time I stopped losing out and was able to benefit from this via another company instead (sadly my supplier doesn't offer it). 

Mstty

mysteryUser said:

Can anyone suggest the next best alternative to the Loop turn down and save?

They've not been inviting me to any sessions lately, their support are suggesting it'd because i "unsubscribed from certain email preferences", although I didn't unsubscribe from Turn Down and Save.

Think it's time I stopped losing out and was able to benefit from this via another company instead (sadly my supplier doesn't offer it). 

Hugo app is good and they pay better I am told