All Sony Play Station 5's costing £96 per year when switched off?

k_man

smjxm09 said:

Reed_Richards said:

You mean they draw 32.2 W or 32.2 Wh per hour or 0.7728 kWh per day.  The calculations of running cost look about right if your measurements were correct, it's just your units that are wrong.  

It was drawing 140 milliamperes. 

Calculation.   140 milliamperes / 1000 x 230 = 32.2W confirmed by using an on-line calculator

772.8 watts per day or 282Kw per year.

282Kw per year at  34.05p per Kw = £96 per year

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Does your power meter also have a power (rather than current) option?

Measured current for AC devices on some plug in meters can't be used to calculate power (one of mine gives inconsistent current Vs power results).

Also as suggested above, is anything plugged into the PS5 which could be drawing power? And have you recorded power usage for an extended period, as the PS5 may not have finished going to sleep.

smjxm09

140ma = 32.2W

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k_man

smjxm09 said:

140ma = 32.2W

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I wasn't doubting the maths, but just that the measured current may not be appropriate for AC power, especially at low current, or with a significant, power factor (not sure if PS5 power supply would have this) 

If the power meter has power/W display (and I don't know of any that don't), then this elliminates that possible difference.

wild666

smjxm09 said:

The Sony Play Station 5 (PS5) games consul has a claimed power consumption of 0.3W when in standby mode.   As I have gone around individually measuring power consumption of every item in the house with a calibrated meter the shocker was the latest Play Station from Sony.   When left in standby the power consumption was 32.2 watts per hour or put another way it was drawing 140 milliamperes.   In rest mode it was drawing 375 milliamperes. 

Thinking it was faulty I went around to my next door neighbours and tested their PS5.  It was also drawing 32.2 Watts per hour.   

So if you are the owner of a PS5 and want to reduce your electric bill by £8 a month then just unplug it.

The simple solution is to turn the thing off at the wall socket when not in use then it uses nothing. I believe the Xbox has a new setting that uses 0.5 Watts per hour but this might not be the true figure as the Xbox will be connected to the internet even when in the low power mode and uses a bit more as it will send info back and forth between Microsoft and the console.

smjxm09

k_man said:

smjxm09 said:

Reed_Richards said:

You mean they draw 32.2 W or 32.2 Wh per hour or 0.7728 kWh per day.  The calculations of running cost look about right if your measurements were correct, it's just your units that are wrong.  

It was drawing 140 milliamperes. 

Calculation.   140 milliamperes / 1000 x 230 = 32.2W confirmed by using an on-line calculator

772.8 watts per day or 282Kw per year.

282Kw per year at  34.05p per Kw = £96 per year

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kdZORKc.jpg[/img]

   

Does your power meter also have a power (rather than current) option?

Measured current for AC devices on some plug in meters can't be used to calculate power (one of mine gives inconsistent current Vs power results).

Also as suggested above, is anything plugged into the PS5 which could be drawing power? And have you recorded power usage for an extended period, as the PS5 may not have finished going to sleep.

The clue was when my son went on holiday for 2 weeks.  I unplugged his devices in his bedroom and noticed my smart meter had dropped by an average of 50w on the live readout compared to when he was at work.   I then made up a test lead that I could break into to measure the current that sat between the plug and the wall socket   It confirmed a 140mA load.  I tested lamps with a known bulb rating to make sure I wasn't going mad. They measured just fine.  Also measured my CD player in standby . It was drawing 2.2mA or 0.5W

sully1311

smjxm09 said:

So why are PS5's drawing so much power when in standby when the claim is 0.3W?   Some sort of firmware upgrade has left parts of the PS5 permanently switch on when it appears to be off?

Have you read this page? 

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/ecodesign/

It may answer your question. 

BeerSavesMoney

There are various settings for standby mode and it’ll depend what you have enabled. 

For example do you close/exit the game you have just been playing completely? Keeping it suspended in standby to resume later will use more power.

It will be interesting to compare the standby energy usage with games open, suspended and playing around with the various settings available. 

smjxm09

sully1311 said:

smjxm09 said:

So why are PS5's drawing so much power when in standby when the claim is 0.3W?   Some sort of firmware upgrade has left parts of the PS5 permanently switch on when it appears to be off?

Have you read this page? 

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/ecodesign/

It may answer your question. 

It suggests the PS5 no longer conforms.

As for standby, there is rest and there is standby.   Nothing in the manual about extra power consumption when in standby.  I have also unplugged everything from the PS5 apart from the power cord. Still drawing 140mA.  We have to remember that my next door neighbours is doing the same.

MuckChucker

CanNeverThinkOfAUsername said:

@GingerTim @MattMattMattUK Thanks guys. I turn the PS5 and Xbox off by the power button on the front, but do not unplug. Could this be why one is so fast and the other so slow?

I have a vague memory of looking into this when they were launching. I believe technically the PS5 is actually a smidge quicker than the XSX but microsofts Quick Resume feature smashes the Sony for when you're jumping back into a recently played game (when it works, that is) - you'll see "Quick Resume" in the top right corner as the game pops up to show it's working. It could be this that you're experiencing?

sully1311

smjxm09 said:

sully1311 said:

smjxm09 said:

So why are PS5's drawing so much power when in standby when the claim is 0.3W?   Some sort of firmware upgrade has left parts of the PS5 permanently switch on when it appears to be off?

Have you read this page? 

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/ecodesign/

It may answer your question. 

It suggests the PS5 no longer conforms.

As for standby, there is rest and there is standby.   Nothing in the manual about extra power consumption when in standby.  I have also unplugged everything from the PS5 apart from the power cord. Still drawing 140mA.  We have to remember that my next door neighbours is doing the same.

What about this? 

https://www.androidauthority.com/turn-off-ps5-console-3146481/ 

I'm guessing you and your neighbour have some of these options enabled.