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So the discretionary fund is.....**drumroll**.......£100 measly quid!?

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  • mumf
    mumf Posts: 604 Forumite
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    Why does government have to bail all users out? £400 for electrIcity is good. That takes OUR usage payments to what we ECONOMISE for.I am not a rich man,but my woodstoves that heat my house take eeer…WORK. I am not a Tory Lover either; I think they are… you throw in the bad language!!


  • t3rm3y
    t3rm3y Posts: 142 Forumite
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    Watch the price of oil rocket now.

  • mumf said:
    Why does government have to bail all users out? £400 for electrIcity is good. That takes OUR usage payments to what we ECONOMISE for.I am not a rich man,but my woodstoves that heat my house take eeer…WORK. I am not a Tory Lover either; I think they are… you throw in the bad language!!


    Anyone translate this for me?
  • Statement from UKIFDA:

    UKIFDA, the trade body for the liquid fuel distribution industry, has met with the government to discuss the most efficient way of getting the £100 fixed payment announced on 19th September to heating oil customers.

    Given the highly competitive nature of the heating oil market, customers have the ability to purchase from a number of different distributors and outlets. Consequently, they are likely to hold multiple accounts, which makes the fixed payment distribution challenging to deliver without duplication.

    Inevitably this will take some time, so we strongly recommend that customers do not wait if they need heating oil. We are working closely with the government to find a solution and ensure that heating oil households receive their £100 as soon as possible.

    As we head into winter, many oil heating customers will know that the best and most economical approach is to talk to their local distributors on a regular basis and not leave purchases to the last minute.


    https://ukifda.org/statement-update-on-100-fixed-payment-following-ukifdas-discussions-with-the-government/

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  • wwally
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    Statement from UKIFDA:

    UKIFDA, the trade body for the liquid fuel distribution industry, has met with the government to discuss the most efficient way of getting the £100 fixed payment announced on 19th September to heating oil customers.

    It's just not good enough for the government (or the trade) to say 'it's awfully complex so we suggest you carry on buying heating oil'. I can wait a couple of months to buy, but certainly was waiting for 1st October as a trigger date. None of us want to make a purchase and then find we are ineligible for the 'discretionary' government support. To make a political point - it's obvious that the Truss administration has made announcements with no detail to back them up. And a couple of weeks later there is still no clarity.
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    LPG - Calor 1600 litres pa     Heating Oil 2000 litres pa
    3 wood burners from own woodland
  • wwally said:
    Statement from UKIFDA:

    UKIFDA, the trade body for the liquid fuel distribution industry, has met with the government to discuss the most efficient way of getting the £100 fixed payment announced on 19th September to heating oil customers.

    It's just not good enough for the government (or the trade) to say 'it's awfully complex so we suggest you carry on buying heating oil'. I can wait a couple of months to buy, but certainly was waiting for 1st October as a trigger date. None of us want to make a purchase and then find we are ineligible for the 'discretionary' government support. To make a political point - it's obvious that the Truss administration has made announcements with no detail to back them up. And a couple of weeks later there is still no clarity.
    Thing is, in my local area a 750l order is now ranging from £50-100 more than it was when it was first announced in the commons. Only 3 things will bring the price down: OPEC nations increasing production, lack of demand or £ up against $.  Thinking about demand, the colder weather is closing in, could be lots of oil consumers waiting for detail of £100 payment to be announced then all order st same time.

    I dunno, you know what's best for you but I reckon they're right to suggest don't wait for it if you can.
  • mark_cycling00
    mark_cycling00 Posts: 763 Forumite
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    edited 29 September 2022 at 6:20PM
    Agree. Not filling up now will increase prices later in winter due to additional demand.

    We need oil in tanks now so that more can be refined.

    If I was legally allowed to empty 200l out of my fairly full tank so I could purchase the minimum 500l delivery then I would. 

    Obv I'd keep the 200l and pour it in later :)
  • Anyone know how to apply for the £100?  I'm on LPG cylinders, no mains gas available, but who would know that?
  • lohr500
    lohr500 Posts: 1,349 Forumite
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    No details yet on how to get the £100.
  • mmmmikey
    mmmmikey Posts: 2,333 Forumite
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    Anyone know how to apply for the £100?  I'm on LPG cylinders, no mains gas available, but who would know that?

    Yep - same here.

    Unless this is simplified down to the level of "if you don't have mains gas connected you get the £100" it's going to be massively complicated and frought with errors. Otherwise, how do you cope with oil, lpg delivered in tankers, bottled lpg, logs, various other forms of solid fuel and anything else I haven't thought of. All of these things are going up too.
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