E.On Next Online v18 - should I fix like MSE suggests?

Mstty

@victor2 Or we could get to the bottom of it

1) are you an eon next customer

2) are you on a fix or SVT with them

3) if you are on an existing fix with Eon next how long til it finished

It may be a combination of not a customer/customer on an existing fix/SVT. Time left on fix.

As the question came from someone like our household on an existing fix with Eon next it would.be nice to get to the bottom of it to give correct advice👍

victor2

Mstty said:

@victor2 Or we could get to the bottom of it

1) are you an eon next customer

I manage an account with them

2) are you on a fix or SVT with them

Next 2 Year V5 (fixed)

3) if you are on an existing fix with Eon next how long til it finished

September 2023
It may be a combination of not a customer/customer on an existing fix/SVT. Time left on fix.

As the question came from someone like our household on an existing fix with Eon next it would.be nice to get to the bottom of it to give correct advice👍

At the risk of slightly derailing this thread, comments above. From that account, using the instructions I first gave, you get to https://www.eonnext.com/tariff-search, where you can enter any postcode and click the "Get tariffs" button. This is what I get:

Next 1 Year v18 Direct Debit version

Electricity

Unit rate	67.79 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.75 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	72.76 p/kWh
Night unit rate	57.39 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.84 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	16.99 p/kWh
Standing charge	27.22 p/day

Next 1 Year v18 Payment on receipt of bills version

Electricity

Unit rate	69.26 p/kWh
Standing charge	50.53 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	74.11 p/kWh
Night unit rate	58.82 p/kWh
Standing charge	50.61 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	17.38 p/kWh
Standing charge	32.03 p/day

Next Online v18 Direct Debit Version

Electricity

Unit rate	52.39 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.75 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	57.35 p/kWh
Night unit rate	41.98 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.84 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	13.27 p/kWh
Standing charge	27.22 p/day

Next Flex– Direct Debit version

Electricity

Unit rate	27.63 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.75 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	32.55 p/kWh
Night unit rate	17.18 p/kWh
Standing charge	44.84 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	7.28 p/kWh
Standing charge	27.22 p/day

Next Flex– Payment on receipt of bill version

Electricity

Unit rate	29.1 p/kWh
Standing charge	50.53 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	33.9 p/kWh
Night unit rate	18.61 p/kWh
Standing charge	50.61 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	7.67 p/kWh
Standing charge	32.03 p/day

Next Flex Prepayment Version

Electricity

Unit rate	27.39 p/kWh
Standing charge	49.68 p/day

Eco 7 Electricity

Day unit rate	32.39 p/kWh
Night unit rate	16.93 p/kWh
Standing charge	49.77 p/day

Gas Tariff

Unit rate	7.28 p/kWh
Standing charge	37.28 p/day

Mstty

@victor2

If you could answer my questions above and now also below as I am sure your message history is too large to find the answers myself 🤣

1) are you an eon next customer

2) are you on a fix or SVT with them

3) if you are on an existing fix with Eon next how long til it finished

I have a feeling as we have 20 months left on our eon next fix this may be a reason they aren't showing us the info.

I would expect you to see the screen you are getting if you are an eon next customer and on their SVT next flex product but the actual question was from a person already on a fixed rate with Eon like ourselves.

However before I do ask Eon Next direct it would be courteous if you could answer the above for my own discussion with Eon Next.

Much appreciated

[Deleted User]

@Mstty.

FYI, I am currently with Eon Next Online v7 fix finishing on 1st October 2022.

This is the sequence that gives me the tariff information: 

Logon to my account,
Energy Menu,
Our Tariffs,
IGNORE 'Want to see our latest energy prices'
IGNORE 'Already get your energy from us?'
Scroll down to 'Want to see what energy tariffs we have'
Select 'Check out our range of tariffs'
Enter postcode
Hit 'Get Tariffs button'.
Choose 'Residential' slider

Hopefully this sequence works for you if you are an Eon Next customer.

victor2

Mstty said:

@victor2

If you could answer my questions above and now also below as I am sure your message history is too large to find the answers myself 🤣

1) are you an eon next customer

2) are you on a fix or SVT with them

3) if you are on an existing fix with Eon next how long til it finished

I have a feeling as we have 20 months left on our eon next fix this may be a reason they aren't showing us the info.

I would expect you to see the screen you are getting if you are an eon next customer and on their SVT next flex product but the actual question was from a person already on a fixed rate with Eon like ourselves.

However before I do ask Eon Next direct it would be courteous if you could answer the above for my own discussion with Eon Next.

Much appreciated

I did answer your questions in my reply above yours, but I'll repeat the relevant part and highlight the pertinent bits...

victor2 said:

Mstty said:

@victor2 Or we could get to the bottom of it

1) are you an eon next customer

I manage an account with them

2) are you on a fix or SVT with them

Next 2 Year V5 (fixed)

3) if you are on an existing fix with Eon next how long til it finished

September 2023
It may be a combination of not a customer/customer on an existing fix/SVT. Time left on fix.

As the question came from someone like our household on an existing fix with Eon next it would.be nice to get to the bottom of it to give correct advice👍

At the risk of slightly derailing this thread, comments above....

Mstty

Still doesn't work wonder if it's because of the 2 year deal.

Thanks all.

victor2

This works, with or without an account.

[Deleted User]

Mstty said:

Still doesn't work wonder if it's because of the 2 year deal.

Thanks all.

Mstty, mine is only a 1 year fix so I doubt it is this.

@the OP,  I ran my actual numbers for energy usage over the period 1st October 2022 (when my fix runs out) to 1 year later and found that the v18 tariff came in marginally cheaper over this time (£2750 v £2833 for estimates based on QuizB's capped rates table based on Cornwall projections).  It is certainly something I will look at when I get within my 45 day transfer window (for a deferred start tariff date).  Of course these numbers have too many uncertainties in them and other energy usage figures will produce different results. 

Mstty

[Deleted User] said:

Mstty said:

Still doesn't work wonder if it's because of the 2 year deal.

Thanks all.

Mstty, mine is only a 1 year fix so I doubt it is this.

@the OP,  I ran my actual numbers for energy usage over the period 1st October 2022 (when my fix runs out) to 1 year later and found that the v18 tariff came in marginally cheaper over this time (£2750 v £2833 for estimates based on QuizB's capped rates table based on Cornwall projections).  It is certainly something I will look at when I get within my 45 day transfer window (for a deferred start tariff date).  Of course these numbers have too many uncertainties in them and other energy usage figures will produce different results. 

That's very weird.

I've pinged eon next on twitter to see what they say.

As at some point during the fix if they can up with a long term deal and the future looked even bleaker we would consider a switch but not if we just have to rely on info here.

Cheers for the info good to know it's available to you on a one year fix, out of interest how long left on your fix? Could be a time related thing like 6 months to go show you tariffs?

[Deleted User]

Mstty said:

[Deleted User] said:

Mstty said:

Still doesn't work wonder if it's because of the 2 year deal.

Thanks all.

Mstty, mine is only a 1 year fix so I doubt it is this.

@the OP,  I ran my actual numbers for energy usage over the period 1st October 2022 (when my fix runs out) to 1 year later and found that the v18 tariff came in marginally cheaper over this time (£2750 v £2833 for estimates based on QuizB's capped rates table based on Cornwall projections).  It is certainly something I will look at when I get within my 45 day transfer window (for a deferred start tariff date).  Of course these numbers have too many uncertainties in them and other energy usage figures will produce different results. 

That's very weird.

I've pinged eon next on twitter to see what they say.

As at some point during the fix if they can up with a long term deal and the future looked even bleaker we would consider a switch but not if we just have to rely on info here.

Cheers for the info good to know it's available to you on a one year fix, out of interest how long left on your fix? Could be a time related thing like 6 months to go show you tariffs?

My fix runs out on October 1st 2022 (55 days time).  I could choose to swap to it now but this would change the £ calculation slightly in favour of the cap forecasts as I'd be paying for nearly 2 months on substantially higher tariff rates.  I'm planning on sitting tight until I get within a 45 day window (so as to start new tariff at the end of current good fix) and probably wait to see exactly what the cap numbers are late August before making a decision.  Maybe they will pull v18 before then and if that is the case then I will probably just go on the cap.