How to compile the Defense ?

B789

"The Defendant doubts that the claimant or their legal representative have spent much time at all on their claim, given that the majority has been simply copied and pasted from their own template PoC as can be evidenced from numerous threads on www.moneysavingexpert.com"

  

Friendly87

B789 said:

"The Defendant doubts that the claimant or their legal representative have spent much time at all on their claim, given that the majority has been simply copied and pasted from their own template PoC as can be evidenced from numerous threads on www.moneysavingexpert.com"

  

Should I mention this if opportunity arises, especially if claimant try to blame for using MSE  ?

Fruitcake

Mention it if the claimant or the judge does, but it's not worth the effort otherwise in my opinion.

Coupon-mad

The Judge will not think that's a bad thing.  No worries.

You are entitled to seek advice (after all, the Claimant uses a template provided by their solicitor and that isn't in the Claimant's own words) but you know what to say if it is raised and a daft rookie  Judge actually thinks it is a problem, because the link I gave you last night covers this exact point.

Friendly87

Hi

not a good news
i was asked to pay £214.91= £100 (original parking penalty) + £2.91 (interest ) + £112 ( claimants costs )

original claim was £277.

thanks for your help 

B789

Sorry to hear that you didn't win. Can you please let us know what happened? Which judge? On what points did the claim go against you?

As you can see, at least you were ordered to pay less than the original claim.

Judge bingo... looks like you had a bad one as they have included the "extras" that the claimant has added.

Friendly87

this was Brentford County Court, london.
Some evidence i was hoping to collect but was provided by the the gym. basically he concluded that i over stayed 20mins extra of allowed time and kind of used some pics from my WS against me as well. 
he dismissed added sum of £54 and claims of unreasonable behavior. 

Coupon-mad

I thought the original ticket "was issued as I stayed 5 mins longer than 4 hours allocated time" not 20 mins over?

However, if the Judge thought the signage - the contract - was clear and he was minded to find against you on that (and believed you overstayed 20 minutes) then the best you could achieve was to see the added £60 or £70 disallowed.

You achieved that!  Don't beat yourself up and you paid less than the claim, and cost them far more.

But please don't disappear from here just yet.

Do you want to get your revenge, and help shape the new incoming law to stop this happening to you or others again?

A final Public Consultation is coming soon.

We need you; motorists need you to help us make a difference forever.  Why should there be such a litigation culture in parking?

If you are not likely to pop back here every week to check, please set up email alerts for this forum and bookmark this thread (below) as we intend that one of us posts on it when they Government opens the Consultation:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6333989/mse-parking-ticket-appeals-guide-feedback#latest

Read the latest posts there.

The PPC money-grabbers have blocked the new Code by filing for Judicial Reviews.  Stopped the declared and much welcomed parking code from February 2022, which stated that parking levels would start at £50.

It's on hold.

Motorists urgently need it reinstated and the ban on false 'DRA fees' confirmed, to stop the rot.

This year will be your chance to make a difference, plus any other drivers you know (family, friends) who are also fed up to the back teeth with the greedy and unscrupulous parking industry and the stranglehold they have on people.

We need high numbers of real victims to make a point of responding to this final Consultation.

Please bookmark the thread linked above and set up an email alert.  The consultation is expected to open in weeks.

Friendly87

not at all, i want to fight these scammers. i would have happily given £500 to a charity than those scammers ( Which i normally do). 
i was kind of surprised, that any grace period is not consider hence 20 mins. there you go. 

sure i will follow and give any support i can.
cheers 

Boat_to_Bolivia

Sorry you didn't win but at least you put in your best effort. Well done for putting up a fight against these parasites.