EV Discussion thread

Exiled_Tyke

Sorry if i've missed a discussion somewhere on this. My question is, do we have a consenus on tethered or untethered home chargers? 

silverwhistle

Exiled_Tyke said:

Sorry if i've missed a discussion somewhere on this. My question is, do we have a consenus on tethered or untethered home chargers? 

I'm not aware of any consensus; it's another 'orses for courses situation.

As a cheapskate I went for a cheap solution: a commando socket on the wall installed by a friend and an Ohme cable which lives just inside the front door and is used maybe once a week on Octopus' cheap rate. Fortunately when I had a faulty Smets meter replaced the operative, at my request, put in an isolation switch which made the install a lot easier and it doesn't use the main board.

My solution wouldn't suit some people from an appearance point of view but it is practical, safe and money saving. I also occasionally take advantage of spare solar by using a granny charger out the lounge window but others with bigger set-ups and higher mileages might think it worthwhile to get a Zappi of similar to divert spare power automatically. I've an iboost for the hot water but for me further investment wouldn't pay.

Martyn1981

Exiled_Tyke said:

Sorry if i've missed a discussion somewhere on this. My question is, do we have a consenus on tethered or untethered home chargers? 

I'd go with the 'orses suggestion.

Purely our decision/opinion, was to go for a tethered unit. That's because by the time it was sorted (during Covid) we'd been using the granny cable for a year+, and wanted to save the time and bother of getting it from, or returning it to the car. But I think that comes under 'first world problems' so not a biggie.

70sbudgie

I went for an untethered option, because I live in an area with typically high humidity and the untethered option seemed better protected and more suitable for an outside wall (I don't know if it actually is, that is just my impression). It also looks a bit smarter (imho) not having the cable hanging about. 

And I'm not worried about having to plug in / unplug both ends. It means both my children can help plug the car in as there are two ends, so it reduces arguments!

Exiled_Tyke

Great.  All useful comments. Thank you.  In light of this I'm going with a tethered Zappi on a (South facing but sheltered) wall on the side of the house out of site.   6.5m should be plenty of reach so should work well I hope.   

Martyn1981

Not great news. Any emissions improvements for ICEV's is not only good news for air pollution, but also helps to level the playing field a bit with BEV's, by increasing the cost of ICEV's, to include more of the externality costs.

100m highly polluting cars could appear on Europe’s roads after EU move

Almost 100m highly polluting cars could appear on Europe’s roads over the next decade after the European Commission moved to disown its own experts efficiency recommendations in a leaked proposal seen by the Guardian.

About 70,000 premature deaths in 2018 were caused by road transport emissions, mostly nitrogen oxides (NOx) and particulate matter (PM), and the commission had been expected to tighten pollution limits in the next “Euro 7” regulation, which takes effect in 2025.

A “medium ambition” option which would save €136bn (£119bn) in net health and environmental costs was touted, based on recommendations by an EU consortium of experts called Clove.

However, the draft Euro 7 regulation only proposes bringing diesel emissions into line with those for petrol cars in the existing Euro 6 law, while petrol standards would remain unchanged.

The draft regulation, which is being considered by commissioners and could change, says that this option was proportionate, cost-efficient and “the most effective” for cutting air pollution.

But it would also have raised petrol vehicle prices by 0.8% and diesel vehicle prices by 2.2% and “in light of current geopolitical and economic circumstances” the commission has “readjusted” it to put less “pressure on the automotive supply chain”.

Consequently, T&E estimates that up to 100m vehicles manufactured to Euro 6 standards for petrol cars could still be on Europe’s roads in the 2040s, potentially with access to low-emissions zones.

waqasahmed

This looks amazing 

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-11073417/Sono-Motors-unveils-21-000-Sion-solar-electric-car.html#:~:text=German start-up Sono Motors,of driving range per week&text=German start-up Sono Motors has unveiled its production-ready,for the panel-covered hatchback.

It's not for everyone I guess but honestly that 70 miles of range just being added, is amazing. The price is decent for a total of 190 miles of range. The overall range isn't amazing given what other cars can do, however for me this car is perfect (Other than the look) 

Grumpy_chap

Just seen that there is an EV version of the C4 - looks quite funky and keenish pricing (not as keen as MG though). 
Says 219 miles range on 50 kWh battery which is very efficient at just over 4 miles / kWh.
Wonder if they'll add a longer-range version?

JKenH

Which electric cars do more than 250 miles on a charge?

I hadn’t realised just how many EVs there are available* with a 250 mile range.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/real-range-which-electric-cars-do-more-than-250-miles-on-a-charge/n24721

* see my next post

JKenH

Electric car buyers waiting up to 18 months for new cars

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/electric-car-buyers-waiting-up-to-18-months-for-new-cars/273455