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If you would like a more optimistic slant on today’s SMMT figures here it is.
UK EV Share At 23.4% – Tesla Leads
The BEV fall in share YoY was simply due to Tesla having a relatively low UK delivery month, down by 31% (down by roughly 2,700 units) compared to September 2022, whereas other BEV brands combined saw a growth of 85%, and 17,000 units. Had Tesla matched other BEVs delivery growth rate, we would be looking at September BEV share of near 20%, rather than 16.6%.
Some may wonder whether this was just an temporary allocation decision from Tesla, or whether Tesla demand in the UK is not growing as quickly as it did previously. The data strongly suggests only a temporary allocation variation. Year to date prior to September, Tesla’s volume has increased by 48.4% YoY, a healthy clip, including growth across all recent months. That growth rate is higher than the UK’s overall BEV growth rate of 40.5% over that same period. It is also possible that perhaps news about the recent slight tweaks to the Model 3 and Model Y might also be a factor, causing some short term fence sitting until the updates can arrive.
https://cleantechnica.com/2023/10/05/uk-ev-share-at-23-4-tesla-leads/
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It seems the mainstream media are taking the MG EV incident seriously with it even featuring in Radio 4’s Today programme. Several “expert” opinions as to what might have happened are revealed by the Daily Mail - here are a couple.
Miri Ofir, director of R&D at software firm Check Point, said modern cars are like 'computers on wheels' and contain bugs or glitches 'like any software'.
'There's a chance that the vehicle might experience a system malfunction, either in its software or a physical component,' she told MailOnline.
'Advanced vehicles nowadays possess autonomous driving features that manage critical functions like braking and acceleration.
'There could have been a malfunction in one of these systems and the car cannot recover from this state.'
Gunwant Dhadyalla is director of Automotive Electronic Systems Innovation Network, a trade body that works on electronics in the car industry.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, he said electronic systems on cars are 'very complex' and, despite 'tremendous' amounts of testing, faults slip through the cracks on rare occasions.
'Nowadays you can find up to 100million lines of software code driving these vehicles, so the ability for a fault like this to escape is possible if your test systems are not really state of the art,' he said.
'Often what happens is when you test systems is you write your specifications of how you want things to work, and test against these specifications.'
Mr Dhadyalla added that 'complex interactions' – two or three things happening at the same time that aren't anticipated – can the vehicle's software to 'misbehave'.
But ultimately it can be difficult to recreate the exact conditions that caused the issue in the first place.
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The Electric Viking has a theory why EV insurance is so high in the UK. Apparently the oil companies are in cahoots with the insurance industry. Oil companies may have investments in these insurance companies and are trying to slow the tide of EV adoption. He says, though, he doesn’t know for sure.
https://youtu.be/ycs28QH3P58?si=llaYt7l63ERO0MRN
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Updated policy from HMRC on reimbursement for electric car charging at home.
HMRC change BIK policy on electric car charging
Last Updated: 12 October 2023HMRC have updated their Employment Income Manual to reflect a change in policy. This impacts employers who reimburse employees for the cost of electricity used to charge company cars and vans at home. A Benefit In Kind no longer arises on reimbursement.
Section 239 of ITEPA 2003 provides an exemption from a Benefit In Kind (BIK) tax charge in respect of payments and benefits connected with taxable Company carsand Vans. Typically this applies to repairs, insurance and road tax.
HMRC’s previous position was that this exemption did not apply to the reimbursement of electricity costs incurred when charging a company car or van at a residential property.
This position has now changed.
- As a result of their revised policy, HMRC now accept that reimbursing part of a domestic energy bill, which reflects usage in charging a company car or van at home, falls within the s.239 BIK exemption.
No separate BIK tax charge arises where an employer reimburses an employee for the cost of electricity to charge their company car or van at home.
- It will be necessary to demonstrate that the electricity was used to charge the company car or van for the exemption to apply.
- Reimbursements for the cost of electricity must relate solely to the charging of the employee’s company car or van and not to other electricity usage
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I saw this but couldn’t find any mention of the reimbursement being ONLY for the business miles used. It can’t possibly mean my Ltd company can reimburse for ALL home charging costs of my company EV, surely?JKenH said:Updated policy from HMRC on reimbursement for electric car charging at home.HMRC change BIK policy on electric car charging
Last Updated: 12 October 2023HMRC have updated their Employment Income Manual to reflect a change in policy. This impacts employers who reimburse employees for the cost of electricity used to charge company cars and vans at home. A Benefit In Kind no longer arises on reimbursement.
Section 239 of ITEPA 2003 provides an exemption from a Benefit In Kind (BIK) tax charge in respect of payments and benefits connected with taxable Company carsand Vans. Typically this applies to repairs, insurance and road tax.
HMRC’s previous position was that this exemption did not apply to the reimbursement of electricity costs incurred when charging a company car or van at a residential property.
This position has now changed.
- As a result of their revised policy, HMRC now accept that reimbursing part of a domestic energy bill, which reflects usage in charging a company car or van at home, falls within the s.239 BIK exemption.
No separate BIK tax charge arises where an employer reimburses an employee for the cost of electricity to charge their company car or van at home.
- It will be necessary to demonstrate that the electricity was used to charge the company car or van for the exemption to apply.
- Reimbursements for the cost of electricity must relate solely to the charging of the employee’s company car or van and not to other electricity usage
Probably wishful thinking on my part.
*edit* one of the replies in the following discussion on an accountants forum does seem to imply that the company can reimburse for all EV charging costs - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/home-charging-now-allowed-for-electric-cars?amp
Thats a huge bonus if that is correct. I suppose it’s no different to someone fully charging their EV at a workplace and then using some of that for private use.0 -
It does indeed seem cover all charging regardless of whether the miles are business or private. The problem is going to be policing the rate at which EV charging is reimbursed as some will be charged entirely at peak/off peak rate, but the majority will probably be a mix & for many that will be hard to quantify.noitsnotme said:
I saw this but couldn’t find any mention of the reimbursement being ONLY for the business miles used. It can’t possibly mean my Ltd company can reimburse for ALL home charging costs of my company EV, surely?JKenH said:Updated policy from HMRC on reimbursement for electric car charging at home.HMRC change BIK policy on electric car charging
Last Updated: 12 October 2023HMRC have updated their Employment Income Manual to reflect a change in policy. This impacts employers who reimburse employees for the cost of electricity used to charge company cars and vans at home. A Benefit In Kind no longer arises on reimbursement.
Section 239 of ITEPA 2003 provides an exemption from a Benefit In Kind (BIK) tax charge in respect of payments and benefits connected with taxable Company carsand Vans. Typically this applies to repairs, insurance and road tax.
HMRC’s previous position was that this exemption did not apply to the reimbursement of electricity costs incurred when charging a company car or van at a residential property.
This position has now changed.
- As a result of their revised policy, HMRC now accept that reimbursing part of a domestic energy bill, which reflects usage in charging a company car or van at home, falls within the s.239 BIK exemption.
No separate BIK tax charge arises where an employer reimburses an employee for the cost of electricity to charge their company car or van at home.
- It will be necessary to demonstrate that the electricity was used to charge the company car or van for the exemption to apply.
- Reimbursements for the cost of electricity must relate solely to the charging of the employee’s company car or van and not to other electricity usage
Probably wishful thinking on my part.
*edit* one of the replies in the following discussion on an accountants forum does seem to imply that the company can reimburse for all EV charging costs - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/home-charging-now-allowed-for-electric-cars?amp
Thats a huge bonus if that is correct. I suppose it’s no different to someone fully charging their EV at a workplace and then using some of that for private use.4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North LincsInstalled June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh0 -
Particularly if you are on Agile or even more difficult if you have solar panels and charge while the sun is shining. I used to set my Zappi on the ECO setting which would put in a minimum 1.4 kW or more if there was solar available. If the cloud came over it would continue charging and it would be a mix of grid and solar. A lot of people use granny chargers when the sun is shining and have the same issue with clouds. Presumably employers have been reimbursing their employees for some time so will already have had to consider what is a fair rate. Whether HMRC agrees is another matter.1961Nick said:
It does indeed seem cover all charging regardless of whether the miles are business or private. The problem is going to be policing the rate at which EV charging is reimbursed as some will be charged entirely at peak/off peak rate, but the majority will probably be a mix & for many that will be hard to quantify.noitsnotme said:
I saw this but couldn’t find any mention of the reimbursement being ONLY for the business miles used. It can’t possibly mean my Ltd company can reimburse for ALL home charging costs of my company EV, surely?JKenH said:Updated policy from HMRC on reimbursement for electric car charging at home.HMRC change BIK policy on electric car charging
Last Updated: 12 October 2023HMRC have updated their Employment Income Manual to reflect a change in policy. This impacts employers who reimburse employees for the cost of electricity used to charge company cars and vans at home. A Benefit In Kind no longer arises on reimbursement.
Section 239 of ITEPA 2003 provides an exemption from a Benefit In Kind (BIK) tax charge in respect of payments and benefits connected with taxable Company carsand Vans. Typically this applies to repairs, insurance and road tax.
HMRC’s previous position was that this exemption did not apply to the reimbursement of electricity costs incurred when charging a company car or van at a residential property.
This position has now changed.
- As a result of their revised policy, HMRC now accept that reimbursing part of a domestic energy bill, which reflects usage in charging a company car or van at home, falls within the s.239 BIK exemption.
No separate BIK tax charge arises where an employer reimburses an employee for the cost of electricity to charge their company car or van at home.
- It will be necessary to demonstrate that the electricity was used to charge the company car or van for the exemption to apply.
- Reimbursements for the cost of electricity must relate solely to the charging of the employee’s company car or van and not to other electricity usage
Probably wishful thinking on my part.
*edit* one of the replies in the following discussion on an accountants forum does seem to imply that the company can reimburse for all EV charging costs - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/home-charging-now-allowed-for-electric-cars?amp
Thats a huge bonus if that is correct. I suppose it’s no different to someone fully charging their EV at a workplace and then using some of that for private use.In fairness shouldn’t everyone get the same rate - say, linked to the price cap SVT?Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)1 -
How would they deal with the issue of charging the car during negative Agile pricing?JKenH said:
Particularly if you are on Agile or even more difficult if you have solar panels and charge while the sun is shining. I used to set my Zappi on the ECO setting which would put in a minimum 1.4 kW or more if there was solar available. If the cloud came over it would continue charging and it would be a mix of grid and solar. A lot of people use granny chargers when the sun is shining and have the same issue with clouds. Presumably employers have been reimbursing their employees for some time so will already have had to consider what is a fair rate. Whether HMRC agrees is another matter.1961Nick said:
It does indeed seem cover all charging regardless of whether the miles are business or private. The problem is going to be policing the rate at which EV charging is reimbursed as some will be charged entirely at peak/off peak rate, but the majority will probably be a mix & for many that will be hard to quantify.noitsnotme said:
I saw this but couldn’t find any mention of the reimbursement being ONLY for the business miles used. It can’t possibly mean my Ltd company can reimburse for ALL home charging costs of my company EV, surely?JKenH said:Updated policy from HMRC on reimbursement for electric car charging at home.HMRC change BIK policy on electric car charging
Last Updated: 12 October 2023HMRC have updated their Employment Income Manual to reflect a change in policy. This impacts employers who reimburse employees for the cost of electricity used to charge company cars and vans at home. A Benefit In Kind no longer arises on reimbursement.
Section 239 of ITEPA 2003 provides an exemption from a Benefit In Kind (BIK) tax charge in respect of payments and benefits connected with taxable Company carsand Vans. Typically this applies to repairs, insurance and road tax.
HMRC’s previous position was that this exemption did not apply to the reimbursement of electricity costs incurred when charging a company car or van at a residential property.
This position has now changed.
- As a result of their revised policy, HMRC now accept that reimbursing part of a domestic energy bill, which reflects usage in charging a company car or van at home, falls within the s.239 BIK exemption.
No separate BIK tax charge arises where an employer reimburses an employee for the cost of electricity to charge their company car or van at home.
- It will be necessary to demonstrate that the electricity was used to charge the company car or van for the exemption to apply.
- Reimbursements for the cost of electricity must relate solely to the charging of the employee’s company car or van and not to other electricity usage
Probably wishful thinking on my part.
*edit* one of the replies in the following discussion on an accountants forum does seem to imply that the company can reimburse for all EV charging costs - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/home-charging-now-allowed-for-electric-cars?amp
Thats a huge bonus if that is correct. I suppose it’s no different to someone fully charging their EV at a workplace and then using some of that for private use.In fairness shouldn’t everyone get the same rate - say, linked to the price cap SVT?6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.1 -
Strange news - I see that Carbuyer has just voted the Tesla Model Y 'Best Company Car'. Auto Express did similar back in July - 'Mid-size Company Car of the Year'.
I get the pluses for a BEV, and a Tesla, but wouldn't the TM3 be a better choice for company car drivers, as it's a little cheaper, lighter and longer range. Not knocking the Y, but the 3 is an absolute cruising machine when it comes to eating miles.Carbuyer Best Car Awards 2024 - the winners
“Lower prices and therefore less tax, Tesla has taken the car market by storm. With incredible efficiency, fantastic tech and access to the all-conquering Supercharger network, there is no better company car right now than the Tesla Model Y.”Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.0 -
First cases of Consumer Duty used to return EVs on range grounds
The market is beginning to seethe first cases of consumers flexing their muscles under the new Consumer Duty regulations introduced in July by the Financial Conduct Authority
The British Vehicle & Leasing Association (BVRLA) said in its latest Leasing Outlook Report said that some of its members were seeing owners return cars because advertised WLTP ranges wee too optimistic.
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