Free Cavity Wall wont do without controls

matelodave

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

I don't really expect them to be grateful for getting something for NOTHING but I do get a bit annoyed when people whinge and moan about it.

I'm quite sure that most of us who don't feel quite so entitled would like someone to offer to sort out our system and install insulation for nothing, rather than having to pay hundreds of pounds to get it done ourselves We'd say thanks very much, bring it on, rather than nit picking. Just my opinion you understand

Ultrasonic

matelodave said:

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

If the OP doesn't have a smartphone and isn't prepared to buy one, then by the sound of it the reasonable concern could be they'd end up with a heating system that they couldn't use properly.

k_man

Ultrasonic said:

matelodave said:

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

If the OP doesn't have a smartphone and isn't prepared to buy one, then by the sound of it the reasonable concern could be they'd end up with a heating system that they couldn't use properly.

While are making a lot of assumptions about what is being offered, and it depends on the specific system, but many, including Hive, can be controlled, and programmed locally.

https://community.hivehome.com/s/article/How-do-I-set-up-view-or-edit-my-heating-schedule-using-my-Hive-Active-Heating-2-thermostat

That said, for Hive, it is easier using the app, or the just the website which the OP has access to.

Xbigman

All government and council schemes work this way. To administer a lot of individual components is expensive so they decide what would benefit the most people and that is what everyone gets. Whilst its annoying to have stuff installed that's useless for an individual it is overall a good thing. 
OP, why not have it all installed and then rip out the hive components and sell them on ebay? 


Darren

Ultrasonic

k_man said:

Ultrasonic said:

matelodave said:

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

If the OP doesn't have a smartphone and isn't prepared to buy one, then by the sound of it the reasonable concern could be they'd end up with a heating system that they couldn't use properly.

While are making a lot of assumptions about what is being offered, and it depends on the specific system, but many, including Hive, can be controlled, and programmed locally.

https://community.hivehome.com/s/article/How-do-I-set-up-view-or-edit-my-heating-schedule-using-my-Hive-Active-Heating-2-thermostat

That said, for Hive, it is easier using the app, or the just the website which the OP has access to.

Please note I said 'could' and was being guided by a post above. I wasn't making assumptions.

ellajuk

Xbigman said:

All government and council schemes work this way. To administer a lot of individual components is expensive so they decide what would benefit the most people and that is what everyone gets. Whilst its annoying to have stuff installed that's useless for an individual it is overall a good thing. 
OP, why not have it all installed and then rip out the hive components and sell them on ebay? 


Darren

I was thinking of that option, if it could be done.  Thanks to the british taxpayer being ripped off again.

pochase

Ultrasonic said:

k_man said:

Ultrasonic said:

matelodave said:

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

If the OP doesn't have a smartphone and isn't prepared to buy one, then by the sound of it the reasonable concern could be they'd end up with a heating system that they couldn't use properly.

While are making a lot of assumptions about what is being offered, and it depends on the specific system, but many, including Hive, can be controlled, and programmed locally.

https://community.hivehome.com/s/article/How-do-I-set-up-view-or-edit-my-heating-schedule-using-my-Hive-Active-Heating-2-thermostat

That said, for Hive, it is easier using the app, or the just the website which the OP has access to.

Please note I said 'could' and was being guided by a post above. I wasn't making assumptions.

Seems there are different versions of the thermostat now, this one does not allow programming of the schedule but others do.

https://assets.ctfassets.net/mijf9lz5yt3u/5CrVkZ7sTTg7D5LlRV4QG6/413e6f13a39b867327bd8d46f27f4407/Hive_Thermostat_Mini_SLT6_-_User_Guide.pdf

But even for this one the schedule(s) can be programmed by the installer and than activated by the use rwithout the app.

QrizB

ellajuk said:

Thanks to the british taxpayer being ripped off again.

If this is ECO4 (and it sounds like it) then it's funded by one part of the Policy Costs that make up everyone's energy bills.

Ultrasonic

pochase said:

Ultrasonic said:

k_man said:

Ultrasonic said:

matelodave said:

Why are we discussing how the OP's heating might or might not work - the essence of the thread as I understanding it s that they being offered summat that they don't want for NOTHING (as in the new controls) as a condition on getting something that they do want which is also being offered for NOTHING(ie the insulation)

Forgive me if I've misunderstood and they have to pay for the the controls as condition of getting free insulation but if the whole lot is free then I really cant understand the whinging - they don't have to use them if they don't want to.

If the OP doesn't have a smartphone and isn't prepared to buy one, then by the sound of it the reasonable concern could be they'd end up with a heating system that they couldn't use properly.

While are making a lot of assumptions about what is being offered, and it depends on the specific system, but many, including Hive, can be controlled, and programmed locally.

https://community.hivehome.com/s/article/How-do-I-set-up-view-or-edit-my-heating-schedule-using-my-Hive-Active-Heating-2-thermostat

That said, for Hive, it is easier using the app, or the just the website which the OP has access to.

Please note I said 'could' and was being guided by a post above. I wasn't making assumptions.

Seems there are different versions of the thermostat now, this one does not allow programming of the schedule but others do.

https://assets.ctfassets.net/mijf9lz5yt3u/5CrVkZ7sTTg7D5LlRV4QG6/413e6f13a39b867327bd8d46f27f4407/Hive_Thermostat_Mini_SLT6_-_User_Guide.pdf

But even for this one the schedule(s) can be programmed by the installer and than activated by the use rwithout the app.

The latter option wouldn't be one I'd be happy with personally. My natural reaction at the start of the thread was very much to stop complaining about something being given for free but I can actually there may be an issue for the OP here. Noting of course that they must be extremely unusual in being in work but not having a smartphone. Were this scheme aimed at the elderly it would be potentially more problematic.

Ultrasonic

Buying a cheap smartphone and accepting the deal as it stands would seem a good option.