Parking stories in the News/media

patient_dream · 16 July 2022 at 12:58PM

Fruitcake said:

The point with BaySentry is that lack of advertising consent is a criminal offence. The BPA need to understand that one of their ATA members has committed a crime, and legal action is being taken against them as a result. Surely this must be a sanctionable event?
Like the MET case where PCNs were issued for a completely different location, and MET (allegedly) repaid all monies unlawfully obtained, BaySentry should be doing the same, and should have reported themselves to the BPA and the DVLA KADOE team.

I don't think the BPA give two hoots about criminal activity. Why are UKPC still members, what they did was fraud ???

hullensien · 16 July 2022 at 2:54PM

What Baysentry is doing is also fraud is it not?

From Wikipedia

Ex turpi causa non oritur actio (Latin "from a dishonorable cause an action does not arise") is a legal doctrine which states that a plaintiff will be unable to pursue legal relief and damages if it arises in connection with their own tortious act.[1] Particularly relevant in the law of contract, tort and trusts,[2] ex turpi causa is also known as the illegality defence, since a defendant may plead that even though, for instance, he broke a contract, conducted himself negligently or broke an equitable duty, nevertheless a claimant by reason of his own illegality cannot sue. The UK Supreme Court provided a thorough reconsideration of the doctrine in 2016 in Patel v Mirza.[3]

Snakes_Belly · 17 July 2022 at 12:50PM

1505grandad said:

Says it all:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nhs-staff-given-parking-fines-while-helping-dying-patient-hounded-by-bailiffs/ar-AAZzsa9?ocid=U148DHP&li=AAnZ9Ug

There should be some kind of dispensation for care workers who are not going to have access to visitor permits.

These were NHS workers and whether NHS or private they don't have much time between visits to find parking spaces. They often have to carry equipment. If they have to park a distance away on every visit that will impact on the amount of time that they can spend with a patient and some patients may not be seen that day.

Trainerman · 17 July 2022 at 1:19PM

There should be some kind of dispensation for care workers who are not going to have access to visitor permits

Yes, and any reasonable person would agree. Of course, that would cut down on the opportunities for money making PCNs.

Similarly, what does it matter whether (say) one pays for parking within ten minutes? What really would matter is whether it is paid or not. All of these things are illogical and unfair trumped up 'reasons' to write a ticket, and then refuse an appeal and then inflate the 'price'.

Unfortunately, it also seems that the NHS is seen as a soft target, whether it be patients visiting hospital, staff at hospital or as in this case, visiting nurses.

The sooner these self seeking cowboys are sorted the better. We did not want another 'consultation' but as we have to do it, I cannot wait to tell it like it is .

Snakes_Belly · 17 July 2022 at 2:11PM

"Unfortunately, it also seems that the NHS is seen as a soft target, whether it be patients visiting hospital, staff at hospital or as in this case, visiting nurses."

I agree that they are seen as a soft target the same as holidaymakers. I expect that there will be a few on here from Cornwall after this weekend.

patient_dream · 17 July 2022 at 8:53PM

Trainerman said:

There should be some kind of dispensation for care workers who are not going to have access to visitor permits

The sooner these self seeking cowboys are sorted the better. We did not want another 'consultation' but as we have to do it, I cannot wait to tell it like it is .

100% agree
With the last consultation, the government agreed and went as far as banning these scam fake charges.
Before he was Chancellor, Sundak approved the bill put forward by Sir Greg Knight

The current code of practice is actually the law, the Queens speech defines this

Now we have a bunch of pro scammers who will throw money, and a lot of money, to protect a known cowboy industry ?

Whoever becomes PM, needs to get to grips with this massive scam, if the private parking industry is prepared to throw money at this, the government can double it.

Remember the scammers in furlow who soaked the government of £miilions which most will never be returned

This is what the private parking industry are attempting to do to millions of car owners ?

The BPA is a membership is of two parts. firstly a protection unit of the private parking industry and secondly membership of councils ....... the councils, whilst proven wrong many times by the the Traffic Penalty Tribunal do a lot more than POPLA and the scam fools who operate the great Gladsones/IPC/IAS scam

Part of my reponse to the consultaion will be that the BPA cannot be fit for purpose especially as they allow a board member being Osner, who attempts to scam the public with fake money

I have no problem with the BPA taking money from councils if the councils are stupid enough to throw tax payers money away ...... well I do actually, what is the point giving tax payers money to a totally useless membership club who just spout propaganda

The second part is that the BPA support money scammers ?

The BPA claim they are a non-profit organisation ? As we all know to pay wages and overhreads etc, requires a PROFIT,

You simply cannot run a business paying wages and overheads and claim there is no profit

The BPA is not a registered charity. The BPA must be Investigated by HMRC

Snakes_Belly · 20 July 2022 at 4:20PM

https://lichfieldlive.co.uk/2021/09/04/lichfield-supermarket-to-start-enforcing-minimum-spend-for-free-parking-next-week/

https://lichfieldlive.co.uk/2022/06/12/decision-by-shopping-centre-owner-to-end-contract-with-car-parking-company-welcomed-by-lichfield-mp/

I found this article whilst looking for something else. It's not a new article but it's cause is likely to have been the behaviour of Excel Parking Services Limited in their two car parks in Lichfield.

Currently there are a large amount of claims in various stages as a result of Excel's aggressive behaviour in issuing PCN's for spurious reasons.

Tesco's car park is quite close the the two Excel Car Parks (now Euro). Tesco's car park was free but now is only free to customers as their car park has come under pressure.

It always worked as free car park before Excel took over Backcester Lane and Gresley Row.

They have done so much damage in Lichfield. The MP Michael Fabricant says

“Good riddance to a company that damaged the good name of Lichfield by their unwillingness to engage with the community. Their lack of engagement is a testimony to how a company should not be run.

“I feel sorry for other towns who have to endure them.”

Actions have consequences and I hope those consequences come in the form of the new CoP.

Trainerman · 20 July 2022 at 4:28PM

That article is even more interesting when you note that even when they are at fault, they have no interest in righting obvious wrongs. That quote from an MP must go in all our evidence to the consultation.

Snakes_Belly · 20 July 2022 at 4:35PM

Trainerman said:

That article is even more interesting when you note that even when they are at fault, they have no interest in righting obvious wrongs. That quote from an MP must go in all our evidence to the consultation.

I intended to post this article as well. This is the article about Tesco's car park. This action by Tesco has been taken as a result of the car parks managed by Excel.

It worked as a free car park before Excel took over two car parks nearby.

https://lichfieldlive.co.uk/2021/09/04/lichfield-supermarket-to-start-enforcing-minimum-spend-for-free-parking-next-week/