New Questions on the N180 Form 10 June 2022 at 7:51AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking 27 replies 3.1K views

Grizebeck

FYI

D1 - 1 Do you consider that this claim is suitable for determination without a hearing, i.e. by a judge reading and considering the case papers, witness statements and other documents filed by the parties, making a decision, and giving a note of reasons for that decision?

E5 - Do you believe you, or a witness who will give evidence on your behalf, are vulnerable in any way which the court needs to consider? If Yes, please explain in what way you or the witness are vulnerable and what steps, support or adjustments you wish the court and the judge to consider.

Le_Kirk

Yep, posted yesterday by several regulars and @Coupon-mad is going to start a thread/discussion about it when time permits and (probably - although this is me saying it) add something in the NEWBIE sticky Know what happens and when link.

Coupon-mad

Good to have a thread about it.

Obviously NO to a hearing on the papers.  What to say about this (your reason for saying NO) is fully explained in the Telephone Hearings thread.

However, some areas won't have a choice.

Thanks to @Johnersh for this:

• CPR Practice Update 143 introduces the paper pilot removing rights to trial in certain small claims. 
  
  Pilot in a select number of courts for now. Amongst the examples cited? Parking claims.
  
  https://kerryunderwood.wordpress.com/2022/05/12/no-right-to-trial-in-claims-of-10000-or-less-from-1-june-2022/?s=09 

Coupon-mad

Obviously on the immediate short term, if your local court is a pilot area you could try to select another if one is nearby.

If say you worked in Newport but lived in Cardiff, the former could, arguably, be a convenient choice, for example.

The pilot defendants will need to be guided differently, with far better paperwork, such as a skeleton argument with authorities, separate from a proper 'story and picture exhibits only' WS.

Some rookie Judges are going to just believe every word of a roboclaim template WS and be easily impressed by the claimant.

Grizebeck

One thing i will add is that there is always an advantage of having a physical f2f hearing rather then a telephone/phone hearing
So there are various reasons you can give as to why you need a f2f hearing rather then any other type 

toffeelad123

Is it only these that have the pilot:

the following County Courts:

• Bedford
• Luton
• Guildford
• Staines
• Cardiff
• Manchester

Umkomaas

Manchester would be the only court where I'd have any degree of confidence in them dealing with a private parking case in an informed way. 

Grizebeck

Umkomaas said:

Manchester would be the only court where I'd have any degree of confidence in them dealing with a private parking case in an informed way. 

I am not a fan of this court but I've picked a client up just by talking to people going there. Ended up doing a repossession case just by bumping into someone walking to the court !
2 for the price of 1

Umkomaas

Grizebeck said:

Umkomaas said:

Manchester would be the only court where I'd have any degree of confidence in them dealing with a private parking case in an informed way. 

I am not a fan of this court but I've picked a client up just by talking to people going there. Ended up doing a repossession case just by bumping into someone walking to the court !
2 for the price of 1

DJ Iyer of that circuit seems to know his private parking onions. 

KeithP

toffeelad123 said:

Is it only these that have the pilot:

the following County Courts:

• Bedford
• Luton
• Guildford
• Staines
• Cardiff
• Manchester

All with big airports nearby.
Flight delay claims clogging those courts?

Umkomaas

KeithP said:

toffeelad123 said:

Is it only these that have the pilot:

the following County Courts:

• Bedford
• Luton
• Guildford
• Staines
• Cardiff
• Manchester

All with big airports nearby.
Flight delay claims clogging those courts?

Good point  @KeithP. 👍