Google 2 step verification

Jenni_D

derrick said:

wongataa said:

Google are doing this for a very good reason - vastly improved security.  It isn't Google's fault that the software you are using has not been updated in 10 years.

Google should let people decide for themselves.

If your Gmail account got hacked because someone used a backdoor exploit that hadn't been fixed in WLM2012, who would you blame?

tempus_fugit

derrick said:

wongataa said:

Google are doing this for a very good reason - vastly improved security.  It isn't Google's fault that the software you are using has not been updated in 10 years.

My point is WLM does work, (for me at least, and probably a lot of others), despite no updating for 10 years, Google is my enemy.

Google should let people decide for themselves.

They do. You can carry on using WLM, it's just that you won't have 2FA protection. TBH, you'll probably be fine, but Google aren't going to support an app that doesn't have the latest security features and as long as you are aware of that then you can make your choice accordingly. 

derrick

It stopped because of Google 

J_B said:

It works today, but earlier in the week, it didn't work

If it stops next week, then what?

If your 26 year old car behaved like that, would you consider changing it?

It didn't stop working, Google decided to not allow password access but wanted 2 step verification, which I could not get to work.  Anything can stop working, even new products, in this case the app is working, just that Google decided to stop working with it.

J_B

derrick said:

It didn't stop working,..............

OK - you weren't able to use it ..... isn't that the same? 🤷‍♂️

Neil_Jones

derrick said:

 Thanks for the input, but for those that go on about not using WLM 2012, I am a creature of habit and don't change things for the sake of change, I am running a 26 year old car, it works and until it stops I will just run it into the ground.

Yes but your 26 year old car will never see any significant upgrades to improve its usablity/security.  Your email will, but your email program won't support them.  Your hand will be forced at some point to move email programs.

Anyway as things stand the fuel is probably worth more than your car

derrick

Neil_Jones said:

derrick said:

 Thanks for the input, but for those that go on about not using WLM 2012, I am a creature of habit and don't change things for the sake of change, I am running a 26 year old car, it works and until it stops I will just run it into the ground.

Yes but your 26 year old car will never see any significant upgrades to improve its usablity/security.  Your email will, but your email program won't support them.  Your hand will be forced at some point to move email programs.

Anyway as things stand the fuel is probably worth more than your car

Neither will WLM 2012 but it is still working.

It is Google causing the problem.

Linton

I switched from LiveMail to eM Client, which has all the facilities of LIveMail, when Gmail ceased supporting LiveMail.  The installation process moves over the LiveMail account, mail server details, contacts etc plus all old emails and the folder structure.  So no reconfiguration required.

Linton

tempus_fugit said:

derrick said:

wongataa said:

Google are doing this for a very good reason - vastly improved security.  It isn't Google's fault that the software you are using has not been updated in 10 years.

My point is WLM does work, (for me at least, and probably a lot of others), despite no updating for 10 years, Google is my enemy.

Google should let people decide for themselves.

They do. You can carry on using WLM, it's just that you won't have 2FA protection. TBH, you'll probably be fine, but Google aren't going to support an app that doesn't have the latest security features and as long as you are aware of that then you can make your choice accordingly. 

For information you cannot continue using WLM if you have a gmail email address.  The Gmail servers wont accept a login request from WLM.

400ixl

derrick said:

wongataa said:

Google are doing this for a very good reason - vastly improved security.  It isn't Google's fault that the software you are using has not been updated in 10 years.

My point is WLM does work, (for me at least, and probably a lot of others), despite no updating for 10 years, Google is my enemy.

Google should let people decide for themselves.

WLM is very insecure now and has lots of known exploits to leak your emails etc which can be used for resetting passwords on all sorts of accounts perhaps including your banking.

Sometimes the tech companies have to take things out of the hands of the users for their own sake. There comes a point where some people shouldn't be allowed to decide for themselves.

Move off of WLM to something that is supported and secure before you get compromised (if you haven't been already).

claire07

I used Thunderbird which I liked because I could keep various email accounts under one roof and save in various folders.  However recently we moved from Virgin Media so I lost the Virgin email address and had to open a gmail one and have been unable to get the gmail account accepted in Thunderbird.

I queried it on here and kept getting the 2FA password to use but it wouldn't accept it.  Eventually I had to give up and just use the gmail account direct but I dislike the layout and the options for folders and would like to go back to Thunderbird if ever possible.  (Like the OP I originally had Windows Live Mail which I also liked)