The big fat Electric Vehicle bashing thread.

Flight3287462

Martyn1981 said:

Just to show (perhaps) why the ultra-fast charging network in the UK is so poor, it's because the Gov are too busy claiming the opposite. Check out the article from a guest contributor:

Sales of electric vehicles reach an all-time high while UK boasts one of the most extensive networks of rapid chargers in Europe.

Courtesy of Department for Transport, Office for Zero Emission Vehicles, and The Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP

UK Electric Vehicle Sales Continue To Soar In Green Revolution

During the meeting, the Transport Secretary is expected to highlight the UK’s world-leading progress in the switch to EVs to date, with around 600 new public chargepoints installed each month and one of the most extensive networks of rapid charging in Europe.

No doubt the reason EVs are so popular is they earn the most profit, ergo they are at the front of the queue for chips and therefore have shorter delivery times.

Herzlos

Flight3287462 said:

Martyn1981 said:

Just to show (perhaps) why the ultra-fast charging network in the UK is so poor, it's because the Gov are too busy claiming the opposite. Check out the article from a guest contributor:

Sales of electric vehicles reach an all-time high while UK boasts one of the most extensive networks of rapid chargers in Europe.

Courtesy of Department for Transport, Office for Zero Emission Vehicles, and The Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP

UK Electric Vehicle Sales Continue To Soar In Green Revolution

During the meeting, the Transport Secretary is expected to highlight the UK’s world-leading progress in the switch to EVs to date, with around 600 new public chargepoints installed each month and one of the most extensive networks of rapid charging in Europe.

No doubt the reason EVs are so popular is they earn the most profit, ergo they are at the front of the queue for chips and therefore have shorter delivery times.

Only if people are wanting to buy them...

Sales of EVs were growing at a huge rate before the chip shortages, so I think the shortages is a red herring. It may be why companies like Citroen have decided to drop their ICE lines for some cars, though.

troffasky

Flight3287462 said:

No doubt the reason EVs are so popular is they earn the most profit, ergo they are at the front of the queue for chips and therefore have shorter delivery times.

Don't assume that if an EV is more expensive than the ICE equivalent that it's more profitable.

VW's CEO recently said their EV business will be profitable sooner than expected, ie it's not profitable now.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagens-ev-business-profitable-combustion-engines-sooner-than-planned-ceo-2022-05-12/

Similar story with Ford:

https://fordauthority.com/2022/03/ford-ev-lineup-not-expected-to-be-profitable-until-second-generation/

Stellantis CEO says EVs are causing a squeeze on margins due to the higher costs:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/stellantis-jeep-dodge-2021-earnings-update-ev-cost/
etc.

yessuz

troffasky said:

Flight3287462 said:

No doubt the reason EVs are so popular is they earn the most profit, ergo they are at the front of the queue for chips and therefore have shorter delivery times.

Don't assume that if an EV is more expensive than the ICE equivalent that it's more profitable.

VW's CEO recently said their EV business will be profitable sooner than expected, ie it's not profitable now.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagens-ev-business-profitable-combustion-engines-sooner-than-planned-ceo-2022-05-12/

Similar story with Ford:

https://fordauthority.com/2022/03/ford-ev-lineup-not-expected-to-be-profitable-until-second-generation/

Stellantis CEO says EVs are causing a squeeze on margins due to the higher costs:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/stellantis-jeep-dodge-2021-earnings-update-ev-cost/
etc.

it is also fact of the less maintenance required for EVs, meaning less revenue via dealership network

like tesla - no annual mandatory services. 1st one - recommended (not mandatory) is after 2 years and it is ~300 gbp I think