Private driveway

Boat_to_Bolivia

Lindsey006 said:

I wrote to the council yesterday re the signage, they will come back within 5 working days so will let you know if they take any action. I could not find anything to say that UKPC had applied for permission so I suspect they haven’t. Thought it best to have a written trail and I have a reference number for the case. I am going to spend all evening looking at the car park. At night it is very dark out there, there are no local street lights here so presumably there will be torchlight from the patrol person. Still just the 5 cars correctly parked in bays so far.

I wouldn't bother, why waste your evening? They won't be monitoring with a foot patrol, that would cost them too much money to employ the poor sod.

Shut your curtains and forget about it for tonight....they are not worthy of your time. 

Better planning your next move with your neighbours to stop these scum bags from making your lives a misery.

Lindsey006

I think you’re right about drawing the curtains! The whole thing is stressful and I don’t want anyone to get a PCN. 

Coupon-mad

We are sure there will be no patrols now we know it's a 90 minute time limit.  That tells is it must be ANPR cameras.  They are laughing in your faces.

BikingBud

Not sure of the risk but I would be very tempted to make sure you transit the site regularly and having already given due warning wait for the bills to come in, sending an admin charge £100 per speculative bill to the landowners and the PPC for the burden and your time and effort to unpick their s#1@ show of incompetence.

I also really like the idea of putting advice notes on the car windscreens   

Grizebeck

I wonder if an injunction would be the way to go

Half_way

Sit back, and see what happens, however if a parking charge notice does arrive then thats the immediate action trigger, and you should fore warn the landowner that if such a thing does happen you will be disabling the cameras/pointing them away from the entrance/exit as soon as possible if the landowner does not do so.

 Thats if the cameras appear

B789

Grizebeck said:

I wonder if an injunction would be the way to go

I agree. However, the OP stated earlier that after taking advice from a solicitor, they said they were doubtful that an injunction could be enforced. I would suggest that the OP find a different solicitor, preferably one with good knowledge of how these PPCs operate and abuse the court system.

Lindsey006 said:
We have already sent a legal letter, drafted by a solicitor and signed by all of us. The solicitor was not convinced that an injunction could be enforced but the houses are all prepared to spend on this and do it ourselves if ANPR arrives. It would be intolerable I think. I do have free legal cover with my home insurance (thanks for that idea) so I will give them a call maybe in advance of any potential PCNs etc  or further camera development so I am ready for action! 

Coupon-mad

See what the home insurance legal says. Certainly sounds like an injunction is possible because it looks to us that the 'servient landowner' is trying to fetter the easement or right of way that you all currently have.

DE_612183

BikingBud said:

Not sure of the risk but I would be very tempted to make sure you transit the site regularly and having already given due warning wait for the bills to come in, sending an admin charge £100 per speculative bill to the landowners and the PPC for the burden and your time and effort to unpick their s#1@ show of incompetence.

I also really like the idea of putting advice notes on the car windscreens   

As well as notes on windscreens why not get some big notices made up and attach to you and your neighbours gates warning people about the car park and how they can overcome the PCN if they get one - it will be on your gate / land so neither the landowner or UKPC can do anything about it.

Lindsey006

I do like the idea of fliers and signs about what to do if anyone receives a PCN.
I think the receipt of a PCN is absolutely going to be a trigger so I am going to look more into what can be done legally by myself or any visitor. I have lived here for 20 + years and next door neighbours for 36 years.
No evidence of any PCNs yet but I am at work in the day so wouldn’t necessarily know. I have not heard from the council yet re signage but should hear by the end of the week. Signs are unreadable at night. Thanks for the support!