Private driveway

Lindsey006

I can honestly say advice given here is spot on. The RAC have free legal advice if you are a member and that did say the same as this site but the advice here was so much more responsive and clear. I can’t begin to tell you how many sleepless nights I had over this! I am still awaiting CCTV cameras etc but the threat of the ANPR was overwhelming important to remove.
I honestly can’t thank you all enough and if I could buy you all a pint or whatever you like I would for sure!!

Jenni_D

CCTV cameras? If these are supposedly being installed by a parking company then it is almost certain that they will not be CCTV cameras - just ANPR cameras.

Lindsey006

UKOC are to have visiting foot patrols.
The landowner is going to instal CCTV.

I would rather have nothing, as it is now of course. The landowner has agreed that ANPR is not suitable because of the rights of way across the car park.

[Deleted User]

Check that the CCTV doesn't infringe on your privacy. They should control access to it so people can't use it to spy on your comings and goings too.

Lindsey006

Yes I am going to speak to the landowner., thank you. No activity from UKPC yet.

Umkomaas

Lindsey006 said:

Yes I am going to speak to the landowner., thank you. No activity from UKPC yet.

Their interest might be cooling if they aren't allowed to use ANPR cameras.  Foot patrols are much more costly and deliver far less profitably. ANPR is shooting fish in a barrel. 

Lindsey006

Interesting, you are exactly right. UKPC came up with a plan to ‘change the right of way’ so that they could still have their ANPR cameras and I would have an awkward access. I have refused completely, the landowner was also unhappy because it reduced the number of car parking spaces. So UKPC are looking at the foot patrol but would prefer ANPR cameras for sure. 

Umkomaas

Lindsey006 said:

Interesting, you are exactly right. UKPC came up with a plan to ‘change the right of way’ so that they could still have their ANPR cameras and I would have an awkward access. I have refused completely, the landowner was also unhappy because it reduced the number of car parking spaces. So UKPC are looking at the foot patrol but would prefer ANPR cameras for sure. 

You have to ask the basic question, 'Why are they so insistent on having ANPR cameras'?  We, of course know the answer, they will generate much more income far cheaper compared to paying a ticketer to stand around all day looking for victims. 

It is quite obvious they have absolutely no interest in managing the car park (which a ticketer could potentially do far better than a camera), their sole interest being in farming the car park (but pulling the wool over the landowner's eyes by making him/her think they will be working on his/her behalf). 

All part of one of the great cons, costing landowners customers and goodwill up and down the country. 

patient_dream

Lindsey006 said:

Interesting, you are exactly right. UKPC came up with a plan to ‘change the right of way’ so that they could still have their ANPR cameras and I would have an awkward access. I have refused completely, the landowner was also unhappy because it reduced the number of car parking spaces. So UKPC are looking at the foot patrol but would prefer ANPR cameras for sure. 

Had to laugh at this, the last UKPC foot soldier I saw was leaning on his white van rolling what seemed as a splif ??

But surely the landowner is aware of the UKPC history .....

Parking bosses will refund ALL tickets handed out by dodgy wardens who scammed motorists by changing the times on photos to fine legally parked cars

• Dozens of drivers have been wrongly fined at car parks run by UKPC
• https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229165/Is-PROOF-private-parking-firms-scamming-motorists-Drivers-say-timings-photos-doctored-legally-parked-cars-issued-fines.html
  

1505grandad

Not forgetting:-

Later ban in 2018  -  http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2018/04/ukpc-banned-by-dvla.html

And how UKPC treat Courts  -  http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2018/04/ukpc-in-trouble-again.html