UKPC- No PCN and £170 invoice from ZZPS debt collectors- What to do???

JustAUser

Fruitcake said:

You haven't explained the the charge is not a fine nor a penalty because an unregulated private parking company do not have the power to issue these.

MPs across all parties have referred to the parking industry as rogues, scammers, and bloodsuckers, and that the BPA is about as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi Desert.

The fake add on admin or debt collectors charges are to be banned by the government when the new mandatory parking code of practice is introduced because our MPs know that it is a scam, and that the parking companies do not pay this charge to powerless debt collectors.

I will add this to the email and post the draft again. Thank you for this. In all honesty, I don’t think the landowner will listen, however, I will try. 

JustAUser

Coupon-mad said:

Definitely.  Maybe from another email address.

Done from another email and I immediately got the auto response  

JustAUser

Dear [          ],

I am not liable to pay for the charge. for the reasons that I outlined in one of my earlier emails. Therefore I do not understand why I should pay even £60 to UKPC. I will not pay a penny to their scam. 

To call this a fine or a penalty is factually incorrect not to mention ridiculous. Unregulated private parking companies, such as your agent UKPC, do not have the power to issue either of these.

There is a reason as to why companies such as UKPC have been referred to as scammers and bloodsuckers. The fake add on administration fees that your agent have applied are evident of this. The government are aware of their cons as this has been an issue raised by MPs, and there are developments to ban this fraudulent scheme.

I did not allow the PCN to escalate to debt recovery stage as I was not going to answer to aggressive and thug like debt collectors, especially without being given the proper opportunity to appeal. It is very interesting that UKPC are using this excuse, as in the parking industry, debt collectors offer a "no win no fee”. I did not submit to the debt collectors threats by paying, therefore, they did not win, and there would have been no fee to UKPC. Parking companies do not pay this charge to powerless and aggressive debt collectors.

UKPC are lying to you and I am sure that like myself, you would not be happy about their deceit.

If they are so sure that costs have been incurred then I would like to see proof that the UKPC paid the debt collects and if they have an invoice, they can forward it by return and not try to obtain a fake invoice.

Otherwise, I demand the PCN to be fully cancelled.

Yours sincerely, 

I think I will send this off. Edits are in bold. I am not sure what else I can add. Please can I have some thoughts on this? 

KeithP

I would adjust it so that this sentence becomes...
"There is a reason why companies such as UKPC have been called rogues and bloodsuckers in the House of Commons".


You will be able to quote Hansard on that if challenged, won't you? 
[hint: see the opening post of the NEWBIES thread.]

Le_Kirk

The fake add on administration fees that your agent have applied are evident evidence of this.

Maybe adjust as above.  Who are you writing to, not the PPC as you say: -

UKPC are lying to you and I am sure that like myself, you would not be happy about their deceit.

Coupon-mad

Wow, never ever say things like this:

"UKPC are lying to you and I am sure that like myself, you would not be happy about their deceit."

JustAUser

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80025819#Comment_80025819

Absolutely. Thank you :)

JustAUser

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80026251#Comment_80026251

Thanks, that makes much more sense.

JustAUser

@Le_Kirk and @Coupon-mad

"UKPC are lying to you and I am sure that like myself, you would not be happy about their deceit."

Pardon my ignorance, is this not accurate? Shall I remove the line completly?

Coupon-mad

You must not use words like 'lying' and 'deceit'!