EVs - are we going to be forced into this before time?

sevenhills

ferreroreeses said:

From what I can tall it's heading in that direction. I think we'll still have petrol and deiseal cars but it probably won't be worth it to continue driving them unless you can afford all the taxes 

How many car factories make combustion engine vehicles, are there corresponding electric car factories?

It takes a decade to plan and build a car manufacturing plant.

peter_the_piper

I sincerely hope that Rolls Royce are encouraged to build their Mini Nuclear stations. I see they converted Drax to burn wood pellets as it should be more eco friendly, however it churns out as least or more co2 than a gas or coal power station

.https://www.energylivenews.com/2021/10/11/draxs-selby-plant-is-the-uks-biggest-co2-emitter/

Penelopa.Pitstop

Grumpy_chap said:

Penelopa.Pitstop said:

None of the supermarkets installed chargers at their car parks 

Jenni_D said:

So you live in the place where custom motor vehicles are built? (Or at least the town's name is given to them).

Can't be the one I'm thinking of:

That's Town 2 on the Hill, nothing in Town 1 in Valley. That's the closest charging point I mentioned. You can check it on the map and see areas without public chargers.

I don't have anything against EVs, it's just not for everyone. I'm sure it's perfect for town traffic or shorter ranges, but not for long range drivers. And I would be under stress all the time worrying about range. And public charging infrastructure is not there yet, so without charger at home or work, it's a hassle.

RichardD1970

sevenhills said:

ferreroreeses said:

From what I can tall it's heading in that direction. I think we'll still have petrol and deiseal cars but it probably won't be worth it to continue driving them unless you can afford all the taxes 

How many car factories make combustion engine vehicles, are there corresponding electric car factories?

It takes a decade to plan and build a car manufacturing plant.

They'll be built at the same place. Car factories are constantly being rejigged every time there is a new model.

MacPingu1986

Penelopa.Pitstop said:

I don't have anything against EVs, it's just not for everyone. I'm sure it's perfect for town traffic or shorter ranges, but not for long range drivers. And I would be under stress all the time worrying about range. And public charging infrastructure is not there yet, so without charger at home or work, it's a hassle.

There's a slightly different mindset when it comes to refueling EVs sure, but you're massively overstating the importance of long unrefulled range when it comes to car choice. People who choose their car primarily on range are a *tiny* % of buyers. 

Charging infrastructure is growing rapidly all the time as EV's continue to grow as a % of cars sold.

JustAnotherSaver

I know ICE as either frozen water or In Car Entertainment. 

Clearly its neither here so what is it? 

MX5huggy

JustAnotherSaver said:

I know ICE as either frozen water or In Car Entertainment. 

Clearly its neither here so what is it? 

Internal Combustion Engine. 

Jenni_D

Internal Combustion Engine  

Herzlos

sevenhills said:

ferreroreeses said:

From what I can tall it's heading in that direction. I think we'll still have petrol and deiseal cars but it probably won't be worth it to continue driving them unless you can afford all the taxes 

How many car factories make combustion engine vehicles, are there corresponding electric car factories?

It takes a decade to plan and build a car manufacturing plant.

It's the same factories for the most part. Remember that most of the car is the same between an ICE and an EV. There may be a different chassis to take the batteries, drivetrain, etc. But the same shell, glass, interior, wheels, paint, cabin electrics, etc.

So it's entirely possible that all of the cars will finish on the same line.

Herzlos

Brie said:

NBLondon said:

Oh and a random thought...
I also saw a Volkswagen ID roll up - back into a Tesla space then try and work out how to plug in.  No idea if that is feasible with an adaptor and an account or what.  Anyway he gave up and headed off to the non-Tesla bank of chargers - which was full.  If he was low on charge - how long did he have to sit watching for a space to come free?  Then another however long to charge...

And what happens if it takes so long one exceeds the approved time to be in the services??  (yes I know they're not parking fines....but would be mighty annoying to have to fight them all)

I suspect that if it does become an issue* then they'll either extend the free time limit or have some kind of validation machine.

* Most users should be able to fast charge in 30 minutes at most, and more users should mean more chargers, so I think that short of bank holiday weekends no-one should need to wait for 1.5 hours just to get onto a charger.