70% increase in cost - Utility Point to EDF - YES!! SEVENTY PERCENT!!

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The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

My flat screen TV uses 0.05watts on standby (a single LED) - I don't know were you get your 1000's KWh https://www.verdeenergy.com/how-many-watts-does-a-tv-use-when-off/ 

The thousand kWh is by leaving loads of appliances on standby 24/7 not just one appliance like a TV. A TV can use more than 0.5 kWh per hour even in standby, especially a Smart TV, I have a plug that states how much electric is used when an appliance is plugged into it, I use it for my surge protector that has the desktop PC plugged into it as well as the monitor, 2.1 sound speakers, external HDD and the stereo system, that lot is using 0.2 kWh per hour or 1.5 kWh per day, the lot is turned off at the wall socket when I go out or go to bed. The cooker and microwave use around 0.6 kWh per day and the rest of the usage is taken up by the fridge, freezer and router, around 0.9 kWh per day. 

A family with three or four TV's, fridge, freezer, microwave, kettle, washer, shower, Smart speakers, charging cables plus other devices left on standby all drawing power can all add up to hundreds if not a thousand kWh per year. The overall saving depends on the number of members in the house plus turning off of devices not in use. 

I did a monthly calculation just on my Smart TV when I first got the TV in 2019 and without and use just in standby the TV used 7.6 kWh  over 20 times the 0.5 kWh per hour you claim but at the same time it was connected to the internet, as I suspect many people have it connected to the internet to access on-demand services. 

I think that you are a factor of at least 1000 out

You are talking about KWh - I am talking about watts !

rp1974

All very interesting but hasn't this veered largely off topic?,and into my standby consumptions better than your standby consumption territory,which could/should be in a thread of it's own.

ChaunceyGardiner

WillPS said:

Which smart TV is using ½ kWh in stand by, please?

A jumbotron?