70% increase in cost - Utility Point to EDF - YES!! SEVENTY PERCENT!!

victor2

DiseasedBunny said:

There should be a first time buyers/first time renters pack with that sort of information in it

There is so much paperwork involved when buying/renting a new place. Do you think the peoiple most likely to be affected by misunderstanding utility bills would actually read such a thing?

Much easier to jump on social media and have a rant about how badly they've been treated.

Effician

victor2 said:

DiseasedBunny said:

There should be a first time buyers/first time renters pack with that sort of information in it

There is so much paperwork involved when buying/renting a new place. Do you think the peoiple most likely to be affected by misunderstanding utility bills would actually read such a thing?

Much easier to jump on social media and have a rant about how badly they've been treated.

We're in a spoonfed society & this forum is far worse for it than any other i've come across.

emmajones1976

Effician said:

victor2 said:

DiseasedBunny said:

There should be a first time buyers/first time renters pack with that sort of information in it

There is so much paperwork involved when buying/renting a new place. Do you think the peoiple most likely to be affected by misunderstanding utility bills would actually read such a thing?

Much easier to jump on social media and have a rant about how badly they've been treated.

We're in a spoonfed society & this forum is far worse for it than any other i've come across.

Yes but seemingly you arent allowed to call people out on it as it isnt "being nice". Or something. 

rp1974

emmajones1976 said:

Yes but seemingly you arent allowed to call people out on it as it isnt "being nice". Or something. 

Sadly exactly this,if you do it's labelled as some kind of ist,ism,phobic,or whatever other buzzwords currently best for attention seeking by finger pointing/wagging types.

wild666

Deleted_User said:

Cardew said:

Deleted_User said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

molerat

wild666 said:

Deleted_User said:

Cardew said:

Deleted_User said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

There is no set kWh price cap.  There is only a daily charge cap and a total charge cap at the set kWh usage. The maximum that can be charged per kWh will be defined by what the supplier charges, within the cap limit, per day.

The_Fat_Controller

molerat said:

wild666 said:

Deleted_User said:

Cardew said:

Deleted_User said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

There is no set kWh price cap.  There is only a daily charge cap and a total charge cap at the set kWh usage. The maximum that can be charged per kWh will be defined by what the supplier charges, within the cap limit, per day.

There is, according to OFGEM !

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you

molerat

The_Fat_Controller said:

molerat said:

wild666 said:

Deleted_User said:

Cardew said:

Deleted_User said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

There is no set kWh price cap.  There is only a daily charge cap and a total charge cap at the set kWh usage. The maximum that can be charged per kWh will be defined by what the supplier charges, within the cap limit, per day.

There is, according to OFGEM !

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you

So where in any OFGEM documentation is that capped unit charge actually stated ?

rp1974

emmajones1976 said:

I actually think schools should cover stuff like this. Simple life skills. As far as I know they dont, they certainly didnt to me.

Once upon a time parents/guardians/whatever the modern parlance is for such things participated in the education of their offspring/charges.

My stepson is a teacher and from what he tells me,sometimes I do blame the parents.

The_Fat_Controller

molerat said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

molerat said:

wild666 said:

Deleted_User said:

Cardew said:

Deleted_User said:

The_Fat_Controller said:

We should all be thankful for the price cap and that we don't have smart metering that actually charges the real cost of energy on a daily basis.

The price cap only saves a minorities bacon - it is a maximum that anyone can be forced to pay monthly (£1227 pa) NOT a maximum per KWh used

So for someone who used to spend say £600 on duel fuel - their charges could literally double overnight

I think you need to look at your statement again. There are several threads explaining the price cap.

So you are saying that there is a cap on KWh price? 

As said it's a cap on the prices per kWh and daily charge. There are ways to decrease energy usage and it's mainly by turning the majority of appliances off at the wall socket when not in use. You can use hundreds, if not a thousand kWh plus by leaving stuff on standby and that includes items that you normally leave on standby in the kitchen, cooker, kettle, microwave and washer. Other items are DVD players, TV's, games consoles, PC's, stereo's, surround sound systems, charging leads. 

There is no set kWh price cap.  There is only a daily charge cap and a total charge cap at the set kWh usage. The maximum that can be charged per kWh will be defined by what the supplier charges, within the cap limit, per day.

There is, according to OFGEM !

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you

So where in any OFGEM documentation is that capped unit charge actually stated ?

@molerat

You may have to dig deeper than a general information page to find the actual values for each supplier, but it clearly sates that both SC and kWh charges are capped.