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Discuss the "Fibre to the premises (FTTP) broadband explained" guide

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  • johnbhoy70
    johnbhoy70 Posts: 238 Forumite
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    edited 15 December 2022 at 8:22PM
    peteh1 said:
    Hi, Coming to the end of my FTTC contract and as our street is now FTTP enabled most providers will only offer that with no landline, my question is does anyone still offer FTTC where I can keep my existing number in FTTP enabled area ? Is that even an option ?
    thanks.
    We've kept our number with BT (don't know why tbh but old habits blah blah) but it's gonna cost us £2 per month to do so and that's on a PAYG package which more than likely won't get used certainly for outgoing calls.

    Our FTTC  deal was up on 30th November and decided to jump to FTTP as we get pretty garbage speeds on FTTC. 

    Also, we were moved onto BT's version of VOIP (Digital Voice) at the start of the year. We didn't get an option however they did send us out a phone that is plugged into the Smart Hub 2. 
  • peteh1
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    Like you I wanted to keep my existing number and thats really the problem as many providers wont / cant transfer an existing number but simply give you a new one, hence my thinking a FTTC provider might be the best short term option.
  • robatwork
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    edited 9 May 2023 at 11:01AM
    Where's VM with their coax/docsis connections? I know not everyone can get VM but they are a big enough player to be included even in a basic explanation, and for almost everyone it's not FTTP but can be up to 1Gb/s


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  • I live in an area that has FTTP installed by GigaClear, an alternative to openreach. Their introductory offers look really good. Hoewever Reading the article on FTTP, I have a question. 

    If I transferred to a non openreach FTTP on one of their introductory offers, at the end of the contract period, would I be likely to be charged a connection fee if I needed tho go back to openreach for a FTTC deal? I would want to cost this into my thinking when using the broadband unbundled tool.







  • gt94sss2
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    Ruthbert said:

    If I transferred to a non openreach FTTP on one of their introductory offers, at the end of the contract period, would I be likely to be charged a connection fee if I needed tho go back to openreach for a FTTC deal? 

    It would depend if the new FTTC ISP charges a connection fee or not. Some do, others don't (or run special offers)
  • Dewpoint
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    MSE_Chris said:
    Hello there,

    We've written a new guide on fibre to the premises (FTTP) broadband and would love your feedback on it.

    Please let us know if you find it helpful, what we could do to improve it and if you have any other tips you think we should add.

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    MSE Chris

    Thanks for the guide Chris. Very helpful.

    I assume home-phones that work on current copper wire installations won't work on FTTP.

    So, what are the options for those of us left with obsolete home-phones?
  • littleboo
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    If you get a voice service bundled from a mainstream ISP, they provide you with a router which will allow the vast majority of phones to work, via a socket on the router.
    If you have a standalone voice service, not part of your broadband service, then it's a little more complicated but can be done.
  • MouldyOldDough
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    What happens for those who don't want / need a fibre internet connection - but DO want a phone line ?
    Will the system cope with that ?

    If I was half as smart as I think I am - I'd be twice as smart as I REALLY am.
  • QrizB
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    edited 22 May at 2:00PM
    What happens for those who don't want / need a fibre internet connection - but DO want a phone line ?
    As I understand it, you'll get the same fibre connection as everyone else, with a box at your end that you plug your phone into. No "broadband" though.
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  • iniltous
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    edited 22 May at 3:44PM
    BT and Openreach have two solutions, never seen anyone confirm they have either though…..for those that currently have a standard phone line , migration to DV for them will be amongst the last  to be switched, and a exchange based ATA (analogue telephone adapter ) is connected to ‘broadband’ with DV activated, nothing changes at the customer end , phone connected to the socket as it is now , this is a transitional product only , no new customers put on it and the customer probably won’t even realise they are on DV , no local power outage  concerns etc, ….the other is as stated, a very low bandwidth (0.5Mb) ,broadband’ service is provided with a mains powered box given to the customer , ( possibly a much restricted BT router with the WiFi switched off etc ) the customer plugs their phone into this box…the 0.5Mb bandwidth is adequate for telephony nothing else.

    No one that I’ve seen has posted on this or other similar forums how a recent standalone phone service has been provided by BT since the stop sale of WLR , the old PSTN technology be interesting to know if anyone has had a phone line only installed since September 2023
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