DCB Legal Claim Form for CP Plus Ltd (Roadchef motorway services)

KeithP

Elf2021 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Not a bad idea but not sure how it helps your defence position.  Your own witness statement and exhibits will have more evidential value.

I was thinking along the lines of saying to the judge that people sometimes need to stay longer than 2 hours if they are not feeling well, after all isn't that the purpose of a Motorway Services and Rest stop! - I suffer occasionally from migraines and they start with tunnel vision and can take a few hours to clear, and having had these tickets because of 2 such instances I put myself and others in danger going back on the road for fear of getting hit with a fine..

Don't motorway service areas allow a longer stop if some payment is made?

Coupon-mad

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

Elf2021

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

it wasn't clear and having gone back for a closer look it's £20 to stay longer than 2 hours - criminal.. also when I woke up in the car it was dark and that particular services has intermittent street lighting and the sign as you leave is covered by a bush

patient_dream

Elf2021 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

it wasn't clear and having gone back for a closer look it's £20 to stay longer than 2 hours - criminal.. also when I woke up in the car it was dark and that particular services has intermittent street lighting and the sign as you leave is covered by a bush

Signs and visibility plays a big part for the judge so did you take pictures ?

Have you watched the ParkingEye video regarding Mr Bowen QC ?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78306189#Comment_78306189

ParkingEye lost and this was a service station. Listen to his reasoning

ParkingEye are far more powerful than CP Plus and DCBL put together

Elf2021

patient_dream said:

Elf2021 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

it wasn't clear and having gone back for a closer look it's £20 to stay longer than 2 hours - criminal.. also when I woke up in the car it was dark and that particular services has intermittent street lighting and the sign as you leave is covered by a bush

Signs and visibility plays a big part for the judge so did you take pictures ?

Have you watched the ParkingEye video regarding Mr Bowen QC ?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78306189#Comment_78306189

ParkingEye lost and this was a service station. Listen to his reasoning

ParkingEye are far more powerful than CP Plus and DCBL put together

I have photographs in daylight of the sign saying that they have intermittent street lighting and also a photo of the sign covered by a bush as you leave - but I probably should get some in the dark, I aim to go back and get a photo of the entrance roundabout where there are 3 ways for traffic to converge on the entrance, which when you are having trouble with your vision you are hyper aware of instead of reading signs - I will listen to the Parking eye video thank you

patient_dream

Elf2021 said:

patient_dream said:

Elf2021 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

it wasn't clear and having gone back for a closer look it's £20 to stay longer than 2 hours - criminal.. also when I woke up in the car it was dark and that particular services has intermittent street lighting and the sign as you leave is covered by a bush

Signs and visibility plays a big part for the judge so did you take pictures ?

Have you watched the ParkingEye video regarding Mr Bowen QC ?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78306189#Comment_78306189

ParkingEye lost and this was a service station. Listen to his reasoning

ParkingEye are far more powerful than CP Plus and DCBL put together

I have photographs in daylight of the sign saying that they have intermittent street lighting and also a photo of the sign covered by a bush as you leave - but I probably should get some in the dark, I aim to go back and get a photo of the entrance roundabout where there are 3 ways for traffic to converge on the entrance, which when you are having trouble with your vision tou are hyper aware of instead of reading signs - I will listen to the Parking eye video thank you

Pictures at night would be good. And don't forget what government says
I suggest you don't mention your vision

D_P_Dance

IIMU that no other country charges for using MSAs, why us?

Coupon-mad

Surely the main defence was no keeper liability, as per usual with CP Plus?

Elf2021

patient_dream said:

Elf2021 said:

patient_dream said:

Elf2021 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, anyone can stay longer if they pay the £11-15 tariff inside one of the outlets.  Your point is that this was not clear and obvious.

it wasn't clear and having gone back for a closer look it's £20 to stay longer than 2 hours - criminal.. also when I woke up in the car it was dark and that particular services has intermittent street lighting and the sign as you leave is covered by a bush

Signs and visibility plays a big part for the judge so did you take pictures ?

Have you watched the ParkingEye video regarding Mr Bowen QC ?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78306189#Comment_78306189

ParkingEye lost and this was a service station. Listen to his reasoning

ParkingEye are far more powerful than CP Plus and DCBL put together

I have photographs in daylight of the sign saying that they have intermittent street lighting and also a photo of the sign covered by a bush as you leave - but I probably should get some in the dark, I aim to go back and get a photo of the entrance roundabout where there are 3 ways for traffic to converge on the entrance, which when you are having trouble with your vision tou are hyper aware of instead of reading signs - I will listen to the Parking eye video thank you

Pictures at night would be good. And don't forget what government says
I suggest you don't mention your vision

The reason I mention my vision is because I had the startings of a migraine which I didn't have when I set off on the journey and that is why I stopped at the Motorway services to take some tablets and clear the tunnel vision before setting back off again.. 
not because I normally have poor vision.. 

Elf2021

Coupon-mad said:

Surely the main defence was no keeper liability, as per usual with CP Plus?

But I was the driver and if I have to submit a witness statement, won't I have to admit to that and explain myself to the judge?
they haven't proved I was the driver, but I can't lie to the judge if they ask