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Economy crash =/= stock market crash?

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  • masonic
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    edited 16 June 2022 at 7:01AM
    masonic said:
    After a 0.75% fed rate hike, with the promise of another one next month. Not quite the reaction I expected.
    Markets like the fed being hawkish to try to curb inflation 
    The counter-argument, which has been trotted out several times to explain markets falling when the fed was being hawkish was that it threatens the future returns from 'jam tomorrow' tech stocks on high earnings multiples, both due to higher borrowing costs and reduced demand for discretionary goods and services. The fleeting dovish stance taken by the fed a few weeks ago was also used to explain the short rally experienced immediately after the comments were made.
  • GazzaBloom
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    edited 16 June 2022 at 11:07AM
    lozzy1965 said:
    Zola. said:
    Who's interested in the FTSE 100?   :|
    Me :)  Well at least a little bit.  And it's up 1.31% as I type!  Using some of the logic in this thread that is probably the start of a bull run!

    NASDAQ 100 finished up 2.49%! :o
    NASDAQ Pre-market today is -2.73% and S&P500 -2.23% giving up all of yesterdays gains

    I guess there may be another 10-20% drop to go until we can think about a bottom. We may see complete capitulation and despair before the dawn breaks
  • masonic
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    Interesting that the MPC is already beginning to fear the impact its rises are having on the economy.
  • coastline
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    Sell the FTSE 100 at 7040 . Right or wrong there's plenty more to go at.
    Just a little update not that anybody will be really bothered . Never mind I was asked so I'll highlight my system. Looking at the link which is not the best package the Slow Stochastic curled upwards as I explained around 6850-6900 to buy. Today we sit on the top of overbought region at 7110. Sell at 7110. Not perfect and could still go higher but 7040 down to 6900 and up again to 7110 is around 350 points.

    FTSE 100 Index, UK:UKX Advanced Chart - (FTSE UK) UK:UKX, FTSE 100 Index Stock Price - BigCharts.com (marketwatch.com)

    You could set the same on here if anybody is interested. Good luck everyone whatever your allocations are.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350


    Buy FTSE 6830 as the system goes.

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630


    Sell FTSE 7230...

    Set both charts with Slow Stochastic and Williams%R from the lower indicators..Good Luck everyone.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    FTSE 100 Index chart, prices and performance - Investors Chronicle


    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    Buy FTSE 7080

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    Sell FTSE 7250.  Struggling a bit now. 

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    DEC 17      SELL          7250        1350
    I'll start again but wipe the slate clean. See if I can win just one person over . Never mind . BUY FTSE 100 at 7100.

     DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS
     JUNE 16      BUY         7100         0
  • Type_45
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    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    Sell the FTSE 100 at 7040 . Right or wrong there's plenty more to go at.
    Just a little update not that anybody will be really bothered . Never mind I was asked so I'll highlight my system. Looking at the link which is not the best package the Slow Stochastic curled upwards as I explained around 6850-6900 to buy. Today we sit on the top of overbought region at 7110. Sell at 7110. Not perfect and could still go higher but 7040 down to 6900 and up again to 7110 is around 350 points.

    FTSE 100 Index, UK:UKX Advanced Chart - (FTSE UK) UK:UKX, FTSE 100 Index Stock Price - BigCharts.com (marketwatch.com)

    You could set the same on here if anybody is interested. Good luck everyone whatever your allocations are.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350


    Buy FTSE 6830 as the system goes.

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630


    Sell FTSE 7230...

    Set both charts with Slow Stochastic and Williams%R from the lower indicators..Good Luck everyone.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    FTSE 100 Index chart, prices and performance - Investors Chronicle


    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    Buy FTSE 7080

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    Sell FTSE 7250.  Struggling a bit now. 

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    DEC 17      SELL          7250        1350
    I'll start again but wipe the slate clean. See if I can win just one person over . Never mind . BUY FTSE 100 at 7100.

     DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS
     JUNE 16      BUY         7100         0
    You're calling the bottom right here then?
  • coastline
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    edited 16 June 2022 at 1:24PM
    Type_45 said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    coastline said:
    Sell the FTSE 100 at 7040 . Right or wrong there's plenty more to go at.
    Just a little update not that anybody will be really bothered . Never mind I was asked so I'll highlight my system. Looking at the link which is not the best package the Slow Stochastic curled upwards as I explained around 6850-6900 to buy. Today we sit on the top of overbought region at 7110. Sell at 7110. Not perfect and could still go higher but 7040 down to 6900 and up again to 7110 is around 350 points.

    FTSE 100 Index, UK:UKX Advanced Chart - (FTSE UK) UK:UKX, FTSE 100 Index Stock Price - BigCharts.com (marketwatch.com)

    You could set the same on here if anybody is interested. Good luck everyone whatever your allocations are.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350


    Buy FTSE 6830 as the system goes.

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630


    Sell FTSE 7230...

    Set both charts with Slow Stochastic and Williams%R from the lower indicators..Good Luck everyone.

    ISF.L | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    FTSE 100 Index chart, prices and performance - Investors Chronicle


    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    Buy FTSE 7080

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    Sell FTSE 7250.  Struggling a bit now. 

    DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS

    JULY 15      SELL        7040         0
    JULY 20      BUY         6900         140
    AUG  5        SELL        7110         350
    SEPT 20      BUY         6830         630
    OCT 15        SELL        7230        1030
    NOV 26       BUY          7080        1180
    DEC 17      SELL          7250        1350
    I'll start again but wipe the slate clean. See if I can win just one person over . Never mind . BUY FTSE 100 at 7100.

     DATE       BUY/SELL   FTSE   POINTS
     JUNE 16      BUY         7100         0
    You're calling the bottom right here then?
    Who knows ? As posted last year the system comes from a bit of TA mainly the Stochastic and Williams%R which I'm using to make calls. Text book method is buy and hold and today we're both level. Did it last year when the markets were going sideways as you can see from the results above. Idea is to build up more units over time . Buy and hold is fixed from the start. Let's see. ? 

    One for Type. Set the following to RSI , Slow Stochastic , Williams%R in the lower indicators. Set just one simple moving average at 10 days.

    SGLN.L | SharpCharts | StockCharts.com

  • Type_45
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    VWRP is down 3.38%.
  • Alistair31
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    Type_45 said:
    VWRP is down 3.38%.

    What’s your target for getting back in to VWRP? 
  • Type_45
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    FTSE 100 down 3.01%.
  • masonic
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    Type_45 said:
    VWRP is down 3.38%.
    GBP priced VWRL is down 4.4%. Strengthening of the pound today is adding to the pain for UK investors. Both down around 15% from their peak. Buying opportunity for the melt-up?
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