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Built in coffee machine when buying a new house - vendors want to take it

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Hi all.

Grateful for all your thoughts this. 
The house we have put in an offer for had a built-in coffee machine (next to the oven), which now the sellers want to take with them. It is (a) fixture no different than the oven or the hob and in that you would need specialist assistance to remove it and (b) advertised as a feature of the 'new' kitchen on the Rightmove ad and (c) if they remove it will leave a hole in the wall. 

Do people here therefore think that we have a good case to say that should be included - and if excluded - we should be able to claim a reduction in the price we have negotiated to the tune of getting a similar machine fitted in its place? 

On a second note, they also want to take the blinds. There's confusion as to whether this is a 'fixture' or a 'fitting' but what has been your experiences on this? 

Regards


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  • Greymug
    Greymug Posts: 369 Forumite
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    Ask for quotes on how much it would cost to replace the blinds and the coffee machine and adjust your offer accordingly.
  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,233 Forumite
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    It's all part of the negotiation.
    Either say you want £1k off if they take the coffee machine and blind, or offer another £1k for them to be left.
    The second approach is more likely to be successful.
  • moneysavinghero
    moneysavinghero Posts: 1,761 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2021 at 11:55AM
    Has your offer been accepted yet? If not don't worry about this until it has.

    If your offer has been accepted then just say you are happy for them to take the coffee machine. But you would want them to make good the hole that it leaves behind. You will probably find that they would just leave it (unlikely that their new house has the right sized gap for it to fit into anyway).

    Blinds - some people leave them some people take them. It will be listed on the form that you are given.
  • SallyDucati
    SallyDucati Posts: 573 Forumite
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    AdrianC said:
    It's all about negotiating something mutually acceptable, right up to when contracts are exchanged.

    They want to take it... fine, but what's in it for you? Perhaps they'll decide they don't need it that badly, if it risks jeopardising the sale. But would you walk away from the sale over, what, a couple of hundred quid?

    <looks at prices, does double-take>
    Blimey o'Reilly.
    https://ao.com/l/coffee_machines-built_in/1-9/55-63/
    What's wrong with a kettle?
    OMG - you have to seriously like your coffee to spend that amount of £!  
  • Thank you everyone.

    Yes - the offer was accepted and it was excluded from the list that was sent to us (along with blinds)

    I'm certainly not paying £1500 on top of what is already an inflated price for the house. I don't care much for coffee - or for that matter being able to use a smart-phone app to control it (can't imagine anything can go wrong with that right?).

    But I do care for the fact that this whole 'brand new kitchen' (which is why we're paying such a high price) has been designed specifically with a unit there, and it would just look quite odd or out of place with a cupboard or panel there. 

    Thanks again









  • pinkshoes
    pinkshoes Posts: 20,533 Forumite
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    Depending on the brand, look up the cost of a second hand one (lots on ebay from £100 to £1000), then deduct the second hand cost plus whatever it will cost for an electrician from your offer.

    Regarding the blinds, then I'm not sure why people bother taking them, as they rarely fit the windows of a different house. Just buy your own and then you can get what you like. My brother bought a house and the vendor wanted £1000 for the blinds to be left. My brother said they were nice enough but not what they would have chosen, so he called their bluff and said he didn't want them. They ended up leaving them...
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • Thanks. The seller is a builder by trade, so I suspect he may well be able to use the blinds in a new place better than your average buyer.
  • Marvel1
    Marvel1 Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    I never understood why sellers advertise things and then want to take it with them, just say on the advert!
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