Legal fuel protests to commence.........

anewman

Altarf wrote: »

The protests in 2000 caught the government out. If you think that the government is still unprepared and and does not now have specific contingency plans to deal with similar protests then you are naive.

As I understand it the laws introduced were to cancel such driver's licenses. But the Government still backed down after the protests, so they can be made to back down again.

Best I can see them doing is video taping all participants to record the registration numbers. What amazing contingency plans do you think the Government has in place? Is the SAS going to rappel from helicopters and throw flash bangs into the lorry cabs and take them into custody?

andy_l_2

Altarf wrote: »

The protests in 2000 caught the government out. If you think that the government is still unprepared and and does not now have specific contingency plans to deal with similar protests then you are naive.

Its a pity they didn't have contingency plans when they lost them disks what chance have they got with the protests!!And for everyones information that site is not just truckers it is car drivers ie US so don't go blaming truckers for everything they after all are responsable for everything you are either wearing/eating/sitting on and wiping your backside with, getting to your door/supermarket and your shops so do think about that.Oh and merry xmas:rotfl:

taxiphil

roddydogs wrote: »

So what taxes would you like to rise to make up the shortfall if petrol tax is reduced?

Simple answer: no taxes need to go up.

They could make up the shortfall by tightening their belts and not squandering billions on management consultants, legions of ineffective and grossly overstaffed government departments, MPs' and civil servants' obscene perks and gold plated inflation-busting pensions, etc., nanny state advertisements on prime time ITV and billboards all over the country telling us do this, don't do that, do this, etc.

(Just pick up any issue of Private Eye to find out where your taxes go - I can guarantee most of them don't go on front-end services which benefit you).

Tax has risen so much under Labour because the amount spent on the actual process of government has risen so much.

roddydogs

taxiphil wrote: »

Simple answer: no taxes need to go up.

They could make up the shortfall by tightening their belts and not squandering billions on management consultants, legions of ineffective and grossly overstaffed government departments, MPs' and civil servants' obscene perks and gold plated inflation-busting pensions, etc., nanny state advertisements on prime time ITV and billboards all over the country telling us do this, don't do that, do this, etc.

(Just pick up any issue of Private Eye to find out where your taxes go - I can guarantee most of them don't go on front-end services which benefit you).

Tax has risen so much under Labour because the amount spent on the actual process of government has risen so much.

Fine, but that just isnt going to happen and you know it!!!!

lewt

is it best for me to fill my tank today then ?

anewman

lewt wrote: »

is it best for me to fill my tank today then ?

Hmmm I was wondering the same.

roddydogs wrote: »

Fine, but that just isnt going to happen and you know it!!!!

True, seems common sense is something always lacking in the Government.

iolanthe07

The time is coming, and soon, when we will look back on the £1 litre with fond nostalgia. We need to get used to ever higher fuel prices because they aren't coming down. Can't find the link, but one respected authority is predicting £3 a litre by 2015.

taxiphil

roddydogs wrote: »

Fine, but that just isnt going to happen and you know it!!!!

Saying "it isn't going to happen" is the reason it has got to this stage - apathy!

Maybe it won't happen this time around, but there will be a breaking point one day.

Taxes can not continue going up above inflation forever. We have already seen the overall tax burden on the working man break through the 50% barrier for the first time ever under Labour. That means we're working from 1st Jan until some time in July - and the government is taking every single penny.

Brown has treated the taxpayers of this country with utter contempt and the taxes just keep on rising above inflation.

Push people far enough and they will snap eventually. Maybe this fuel protest will not come to fruition, but there will come a point where mass civil disobedience becomes the only way of making the government listen. Less than 1 in 5 people voted them in at the last election so obviously the ballot box isn't the answer.

anewman

iolanthe07 wrote: »

The time is coming, and soon, when we will look back on the £1 litre with fond nostalgia. We need to get used to ever higher fuel prices because they aren't coming down. Can't find the link, but one respected authority is predicting £3 a litre by 2015.

Have you seen how much of your £1 a litre is tax? Well over half! There's something designed to tax consumption, it's called VAT and that's currently set at 17.5%, why does fuel have to be taxed four times that?

goldspanners

Motorist wrote: »

The transaction website is shocking. The forum seems to be full of militant bully-boys who are determined to bring the country to a halt regardless of how it might affect anyone else! It looks like anyone who doesn't want a repeat of the gunpowder plot just gets shouted down.

Let's hope the police clamp down hard on these thugs if they start trying to hold the country to ransom.

Selfish sods!

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i dont think these guys are bully boys,its our unfair government that is bullying our country into paying far too much tax for everything,if someone doesnt take a stand then where does it stop.
when the french arent happy the first guys to make a stand are the truckers,nothing gets in or out of the country without then,so surely with us being an island this would have an even better effect here?
i dont want everything my own way,i just want fairness.