Octopus Tracker

MultiFuelBurner

pfpf said:

and looking at that nordpool link. the day ahead was much cheaper end December / start of January but the unit price to us was higher.
just when i think iv'e sort of understood something in my head another curve ball is thrown

If you are talking about the next day nordpool electricity price it works out exactly with the provided formula with your particular tracker tariff from octopus for your region every day.

Archerychick

fuelcrusher said:

barker77 said:

fuelcrusher said:

Just for interest, where electricity is concerned the current day auction results are used. Whereby the average of the days half hourly periods is used for octopus's calculation. On my daily email this is known as the Baseload price (BL) ie, average price for a generator running through the full day without having to 'start-up'. This BL price ALWAYS tallies up directly with the next day octopus price.

Have you got a link to where this would be viewable please? 

I've found the day ahead price here https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/Market-data1/GB/Auction-prices/UK/Daily/?view=table although I don't know when it gets updated as I've never checked. My email usually comes in just after 10:00 and the octopus tracker price is usually published well within the hour so there's no real use in knowing this data slightly earlier.

There is an app called OctoTracker which displays todays and tomorrow price which is quite handy. We don’t yet have tomorrows prices but usually updated soon

fuelcrusher

pfpf said:

QrizB said:

fuelcrusher said:

Conclusion: tradingeconomics site isn't much good to predict octopus price.

The chart at trading economics is the price for next month delivery, not next day.

It has very little relevance to the Tracker day-ahead price.

just to make it clear for me. that Commodities landing page on TE that's updating all the time, that's not the day ahead price? that's what iv'e always looked at and so many times on here it's been referred to.

thanks.

Correct, I think many were/are using this page to predict the octopus price. I also thought it was a good source until I saw clear discrepancies.

fuelcrusher

Today's email shows gas day ahead of 70p which for North Scotland should come out at 3.69p octopus price. We'll see later tonight if this is accurate.

fuelcrusher

Archerychick said:

fuelcrusher said:

barker77 said:

fuelcrusher said:

Just for interest, where electricity is concerned the current day auction results are used. Whereby the average of the days half hourly periods is used for octopus's calculation. On my daily email this is known as the Baseload price (BL) ie, average price for a generator running through the full day without having to 'start-up'. This BL price ALWAYS tallies up directly with the next day octopus price.

Have you got a link to where this would be viewable please? 

I've found the day ahead price here https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/en/Market-data1/GB/Auction-prices/UK/Daily/?view=table although I don't know when it gets updated as I've never checked. My email usually comes in just after 10:00 and the octopus tracker price is usually published well within the hour so there's no real use in knowing this data slightly earlier.

There is an app called OctoTracker which displays todays and tomorrow price which is quite handy. We don’t yet have tomorrows prices but usually updated soon

Does this usually show tomorrows gas at the same time as the electric or does it wait until after teatime like the various web pages do for gas?

pfpf

forget my last couple of posts, i am mixing 2 completely different things up. even comparing gas with electricity. back to school.

pete-20-11

Anyone using home assistant to get their energy usage and prices?

I’ve got Bottle Cap Dave’s integration, but the gas price for today shows as the SVR price and the next rate always says unavailable.

not sure if it just takes a while for the data to start flowing all the way through the system (tariff is right on octopus homepage) or if it’s just not possible to get the tracker gas price that way. 

fuelcrusher

Looks like the octotracker app waits until after tea to announce the next day gas price, like the various websites.

debitcardmayhem

Well Eastern is 4.0p today , I appear to heading for £30 less for two weeks
Octopus can’t get my gas readings though

Slinky

Is there an app on Android that gives next day pricing?  I use OctoAid but my neighbour I've just got onto Tracker doesnt have an iphone