Octopus Tracker

Spoonie_Turtle

And day-ahead unit rates https://gastracker.uk (both gas and elec).

mmmmikey

Thanks for earlier posts @MultiFuelBurner - it does sound like we're in for some price increases soon. 

Info re: Agile is also interesting, I guess confirming the "when Tracker is cheap Agile is very cheap" (and vice versa) theory. Even without the increased price differential when Tracker goes up, I saved money on Agile nearly every day. Two things made me change to Tracker for the winter: (1) the savings sessions which make Tracker cheaper for me  (2) I use a lot more energy in the winter so wanted to protect myself against the risk of higher prices. It will be interesting to see how many change from Tracker to Agile when the Tracker price increases kick in.

z.j.c

Spoonie_Turtle said:

And day-ahead unit rates https://gastracker.uk (both gas and elec).

Is this the price octopus will charge me or do I need to put this into their formula? 

masonic

z.j.c said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

And day-ahead unit rates https://gastracker.uk (both gas and elec).

Is this the price octopus will charge me or do I need to put this into their formula? 

It's the price you pay per unit. You can see the past month plotted vs Flexible here: https://mysmartenergy.uk/Tracker/East-Midlands (select your region from the menu)

masonic

MultiFuelBurner said:

As a side note since the Tracker December 2023 v1 tariff has been released on the 11th December I have been tracking(sorry for the pun) how Agile compares without shifting any load. Which is interesting as we could shift hot water, washing etc and we are setup to miss most of the 4-7pm expensive periods 

I suspect Agile may become more popular than the new tracker formula?

I get similar results to you, but we have to remember that when wholesale prices are above this level, Agile becomes relatively more expensive. If I go back to last autumn, Agile looks a lot less enticing relative to the back-calculated Dec2023 Tracker.

pfpf

masonic said:

pfpf said:

my bill arrived today, iv'e had a couple of months where all is "as used". before that had a couple of issues with Gas "averaged", but this month have the electric averaged. some cheap days in the last month that i used a lot and vice versa on dearer days.
how do i find where the missing reading/s are? i'll have to try and work out what the difference is.

p.s my app shows all daily use but i know one 30 min missing reading and it's averaged.

Guy Lipman's site is the best place to check for missing data: https://energy.guylipman.com/sm/admin?source=octopus

thanks. we had a 2 hour power outage (area wide) on the 28th Dec, this is the missing data. do they ever automatically re-issue bills? can i do anything to get the bill re-issued?  i suspect the difference will be relatively small, i'll need to try and work it out.

Telegraph_Sam

@masonic: which triggers a repeat from me, if there is a way of comparing the medium / long term (track) record of the two tariffs, making necessary assumptions over load "profile" (shift / no shift).

masonic

Telegraph_Sam said:

@masonic: which triggers a repeat from me, if there is a way of comparing the medium / long term (track) record of the two tariffs, making necessary assumptions over load "profile" (shift / no shift).

There's danger in going too far back. Someone looking at the previous winter would have assumed prices would be much higher today than they are. Periods like the pandemic lockdown are also very unusual. I tend to limit myself to the recent past and near future. Anything further and any signal is lost in the noise.

masonic

pfpf said:

masonic said:

pfpf said:

my bill arrived today, iv'e had a couple of months where all is "as used". before that had a couple of issues with Gas "averaged", but this month have the electric averaged. some cheap days in the last month that i used a lot and vice versa on dearer days.
how do i find where the missing reading/s are? i'll have to try and work out what the difference is.

p.s my app shows all daily use but i know one 30 min missing reading and it's averaged.

Guy Lipman's site is the best place to check for missing data: https://energy.guylipman.com/sm/admin?source=octopus

thanks. we had a 2 hour power outage (area wide) on the 28th Dec, this is the missing data. do they ever automatically re-issue bills? can i do anything to get the bill re-issued?  i suspect the difference will be relatively small, i'll need to try and work it out.

If there was no data recorded for that period then they will not be able to recalculate your bill based on your daily consumption.

MultiFuelBurner

masonic said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

As a side note since the Tracker December 2023 v1 tariff has been released on the 11th December I have been tracking(sorry for the pun) how Agile compares without shifting any load. Which is interesting as we could shift hot water, washing etc and we are setup to miss most of the 4-7pm expensive periods 

I suspect Agile may become more popular than the new tracker formula?

I get similar results to you, but we have to remember that when wholesale prices are above this level, Agile becomes relatively more expensive. If I go back to last autumn, Agile looks a lot less enticing relative to the back-calculated Dec2023 Tracker.

Yep that's why I am monitoring it especially through the rest of winter.

You have to add some margin for what you can shift though when viewing backwards and current as obviously we don't shift anything on tracker.

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