Octopus Tracker

Telegraph_Sam

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

Spoonie_Turtle

Telegraph_Sam said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

The whole point of Tracker is to load shift across days rather than within the day.  Agile is about load shifting within the day and avoiding the peak times.

The best clue for future Tracker electricity prices I've found so far is this https://emoncms.org/ukgrid usually more wind and solar relative to the demand means cheaper prices, but weather is just one factor so it's not a guarantee by any means.  Just … better than nothing, which is what I was working with before.

Telegraph_Sam

That's a good way of putting it. I may have misunderstood the precise mechanics. I suspect that there are relatively few users that are that dedicated to do the complex advance weather crystal ball gazing stuff. Just trust to luck that in the end Tracker delivers a better deal overall than the average.

masonic

Telegraph_Sam said:

That's a good way of putting it. I may have misunderstood the precise mechanics. I suspect that there are relatively few users that are that dedicated to do the complex advance weather crystal ball gazing stuff. Just trust to luck that in the end Tracker delivers a better deal overall than the average.

My Tracker load shifting algorithm is as follows:

- Are strong winds forecast in the next few days?

- Yes -> Save up things to put on when it's windy

- No  -> Is tomorrow's price higher than today's?

- Yes -> Do stuff today

- No  -> Put stuff off until tomorrow

Telegraph_Sam

Just in the last week there were those suffering from Storm Babet gales in the north / east whilst others in the same area had relatively little to report.  Not for amateurs.

MultiFuelBurner

Telegraph_Sam said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

Yes covered previously and recently.

I consider agile load shifting to be having to hit 30 minute windows to get the best overall daily price not the delaying of my tumble dryer til tomorrow 😂

Pat38493

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Telegraph_Sam said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

The whole point of Tracker is to load shift across days rather than within the day.  Agile is about load shifting within the day and avoiding the peak times.

The best clue for future Tracker electricity prices I've found so far is this https://emoncms.org/ukgrid usually more wind and solar relative to the demand means cheaper prices, but weather is just one factor so it's not a guarantee by any means.  Just … better than nothing, which is what I was working with before.

Yeah and tracker and agile users Best prepare to take the medicine the for the next 10 days.  Still, I already saved a lot 

masonic

Telegraph_Sam said:

Just in the last week there were those suffering from Storm Babet gales in the north / east whilst others in the same area had relatively little to report.  Not for amateurs.

Well that doesn't really matter, as by the time the weather is observed, the day ahead wholesale price is already fixed. It was forecast to be rather windy between Tuesday afternoon and the early hours of Saturday, and the Tracker unit price broadly followed that forecast. As far as I'm aware, the forecast was reasonably accurate for much of the UK, and there are enough wind farms dotted around the UK to catch some of that wind. I don't think you need a great deal of precision in your data to pick out days that are likely to be cheaper.

It's been posted several times before, but https://emoncms.org/ukgrid will give you a pretty good guide.

Spoonie_Turtle

Pat38493 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Telegraph_Sam said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

The whole point of Tracker is to load shift across days rather than within the day.  Agile is about load shifting within the day and avoiding the peak times.

The best clue for future Tracker electricity prices I've found so far is this https://emoncms.org/ukgrid usually more wind and solar relative to the demand means cheaper prices, but weather is just one factor so it's not a guarantee by any means.  Just … better than nothing, which is what I was working with before.

Yeah and tracker and agile users Best prepare to take the medicine the for the next 10 days.  Still, I already saved a lot 

Yep!  Looked at it and my heart sank a little.  But I'll just have to keep telling myself there's still a fair way to go on Tracker to even get to SVT rate (electricity, anyway), to keep it in perspective.

masonic

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Pat38493 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Telegraph_Sam said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

The whole point about tracker is that you don't have to be agile with your daily energy use.

Unless, I suppose, you have reason to believe that there is a daily "pattern" to Tracker price movements which you take advantage of. To which you will reply that then you ought to be on Agile anyway. [I have yet to get round to working out if there is any such pattern and where best to get the data]

The whole point of Tracker is to load shift across days rather than within the day.  Agile is about load shifting within the day and avoiding the peak times.

The best clue for future Tracker electricity prices I've found so far is this https://emoncms.org/ukgrid usually more wind and solar relative to the demand means cheaper prices, but weather is just one factor so it's not a guarantee by any means.  Just … better than nothing, which is what I was working with before.

Yeah and tracker and agile users Best prepare to take the medicine the for the next 10 days.  Still, I already saved a lot 

Yep!  Looked at it and my heart sank a little.  But I'll just have to keep telling myself there's still a fair way to go on Tracker to even get to SVT rate (electricity, anyway), to keep it in perspective.

Yes, despite this, I'd be a little surprised if we breached the price cap this coming week, but could get close.