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HMRC Self assessment 2021

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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 18 May 2021 at 6:32PM
    Hi Guys.
    Haven't done mine yet. Quick question,  is their a separate section to show any SEISS payments received or should i just add them on to my trading turnover for the year?
    Do I need the ref numbers for the grants etc?
    There is - look under ‘Calculating your taxable profits’ Paper version below.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/974065/sa103s-2021.pdf
  • Jeremy535897
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    Box 27.1 SA103S. No. No.
  • sheramber
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    All this I.d etc is ridiculous... you have to varify yourself before you even set up a account with them.
    it’s really making me wish I was paye absolutely pathetic considering it’s a refund of what we have paid! Anyone would think they are gifting it us...  I’m yet to receive the letter but requesting 8 different things someone has stated is beyond a joke. 
    Could understand if it was being investigated but it’s just a security checks for goodness sake. #rantover 
    But you omitted your turnover so your return was not correct and may well be getting investigated.
    When you amended the return  that may have put it to the back of the queue as it would have a later date of submission.
    Just be glad they did not repay the first amount  which you would have had to repay.
  • Sssss12346
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    My husband submitted his return on 16th April and has been showing as bank repayment pending ever since, he spoke to hmrc via webchat yesterday and they said they had sent a letter on 12th may which he still hasn't recieved and the payment is still showing as repayment pending today. As his repayment hasn't dissapeared off his account could it be a different letter he will recieve ?
    I received the same letter today today and mine still pending they want lots of paperwork 8 different things to be exact half of them I do not have 
    What date was on your letter for when it got issued @themediaisthevirus
  • Claire2012xz
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    sheramber said:
    All this I.d etc is ridiculous... you have to varify yourself before you even set up a account with them.
    it’s really making me wish I was paye absolutely pathetic considering it’s a refund of what we have paid! Anyone would think they are gifting it us...  I’m yet to receive the letter but requesting 8 different things someone has stated is beyond a joke. 
    Could understand if it was being investigated but it’s just a security checks for goodness sake. #rantover 
    But you omitted your turnover so your return was not correct and may well be getting investigated.
    When you amended the return  that may have put it to the back of the queue as it would have a later date of submission.
    Just be glad they did not repay the first amount  which you would have had to repay.
    It would not of gone through as there was no turnover hence why I sat pending for quite a while it wasn’t a error as in a inaccurate figure it was a missed section, as to which I was informed by hmrc to amend.
    I’m more than happy to comply with their queries but it does not mean that I’m not annoyed about the amount of time they are waisting asking pointless questions.

  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 18 May 2021 at 9:56PM
    sheramber said:
    All this I.d etc is ridiculous... you have to varify yourself before you even set up a account with them.
    it’s really making me wish I was paye absolutely pathetic considering it’s a refund of what we have paid! Anyone would think they are gifting it us...  I’m yet to receive the letter but requesting 8 different things someone has stated is beyond a joke. 
    Could understand if it was being investigated but it’s just a security checks for goodness sake. #rantover 
    But you omitted your turnover so your return was not correct and may well be getting investigated.
    When you amended the return  that may have put it to the back of the queue as it would have a later date of submission.
    Just be glad they did not repay the first amount  which you would have had to repay.
    It would not of gone through as there was no turnover hence why I sat pending for quite a while it wasn’t a error as in a inaccurate figure it was a missed section, as to which I was informed by hmrc to amend.
    I’m more than happy to comply with their queries but it does not mean that I’m not annoyed about the amount of time they are waisting asking pointless questions.

    Sorry - it really does not work like that. Your NIL turnover would not be the reason for continued pending. It would have ‘gone through’ in the same way as if you had added an extra nought to your turnover or omitted to claim any expenses. Unless things have changed dramatically since my day HMRC process and ask questions later - they have 22 months to do just that. What would also have happened is that a loss ensued and that would have involved more scrutiny (how were you to relieve the loss?). Presumably you pointed this out to HMRC and it was suggested that you could amend the return.

    Having said all that, I must admit to having some concerns as to these letters. I note that HMRC state that these do not constitute S9A enquiries but S9, presumably to leave the former option available.

    It will be interesting to see how this develops. Had this occurred regularly in previous years it would be mentioned throughout this thread. Hopefully, not a permanent change of approach or a regular feature in years to come
  • jamesieboi46
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    Pending still
  • Patagone
    Patagone Posts: 13 Forumite
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    Still pending..... Should be spending!! 
  • Sssss12346
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    Yep still pending too!! No letter yet either. Wish they would hurry up and deal with it. Do they work on them at weekends too cause the date they keep giving me for the checks to be complete is the 23rd
  • I got told this morning that my letter got issued on the 12th and have to give it till the 26th to arrive they take so long to do anything 
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