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2017 Capital Car Park Control PCN, DCB Legal now following up

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  • the BPA have no redonsability to the public , they are a trade body funded by there members and the aim is to protect the members from the general public 

    move along now nothing to see 

  • the BPA are so keen on helping members of the public , they removed the telephone no from there page , no wonder the amout of complaint calls fell 

    well feel free 

  • beamerguy
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    Umkomaas said:
    beamerguy said:
    Umkomaas said:
    The public do not realise that the BPA is licenced by government as an ATA
    Accredited Trade Association status is awarded by the DVLA, the Government is not involved. 
    An agent of the government  so it implicates the DVLA
    Eh?  We need to deal in facts here. One can't just draw convenient implications. This thread (and others) is flailing around with all sorts of assumptions, 'legal' assertions, company law 'definitions', with little to back up statements. We cannot send unwary newbies off on wild goose chases to sate the dreams, aspirations and imaginations of those without any personal risk in these case(s).
    You are right ... but the BPA must answer to an authority. The agent, the DVLA must answer to government.
    Nobody is sending anyone on wild goose chase apart from this issue which starts with the BPA and must end with the BPA

    Who would ever believe that a staff member of the AOS team in the BPA would claim that the limited company was a member over 10 years prior to the formation of that company in 2020 ?
  • Umkomaas
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    the BPA have no redonsability to the public , they are a trade body funded by there members and the aim is to protect the members from the general public 

    move along now nothing to see 

    Absolutely. However we spell it, we cannot and must not make this stuff up!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy
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    the BPA have no redonsability to the public , they are a trade body funded by there members and the aim is to protect the members from the general public 

    move along now nothing to see 

    Better said that the BPA are not responsible for the actions of their members but love their money and turn a blind eye to their scammers.
    Driving standards up ... what piffle
  • Hi all,
    Just had a brain fart in the shower and realised that I may know who the landowner is / who may have authority to cancel 3 of these PCNs.
    Do we have a template somewhere of a Letter to the Land Owner?
    Many thanks!  B)
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 5 February 2021 at 10:37PM
    Do we have a template somewhere of a Letter to the Land Owner?
    Nope. It's a DIY. There's no template capable of covering the myriad of potential issues, that impact on individuals in different ways with differing circumstances and emotions, and covering all the potential mitigating factors across a vast array of different landowners across various parts of the country.  Think about it.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • fueboy
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    where are copies of the DVLA printout  when they asked for your details , all that is shown is a form saying "we got details from dvla" you need to see the dvla copy in order to check if the request was genuine and the company details he used , and the replies from the DVLA 

    also I dont see a bunch of follow up / threat letters 

    A subject acces request is ALL info relating to you , not selected smippets , the DVLA reply to him (you need to see 5 of those) includes YOUR name and YOUR address , you are the subject , you require ALL the info , even if its 100 pages , and they have 31 days to send it to you 
    I am going through the same, as you know. DVLA sent me this FYI op


  • fueboy said:
    where are copies of the DVLA printout  when they asked for your details , all that is shown is a form saying "we got details from dvla" you need to see the dvla copy in order to check if the request was genuine and the company details he used , and the replies from the DVLA 

    also I dont see a bunch of follow up / threat letters 

    A subject acces request is ALL info relating to you , not selected smippets , the DVLA reply to him (you need to see 5 of those) includes YOUR name and YOUR address , you are the subject , you require ALL the info , even if its 100 pages , and they have 31 days to send it to you 
    I am going through the same, as you know. DVLA sent me this FYI op


    Okay cool. Who did you contact & what did you ask for to get a hold of that?
    Thank you! :)
  • Umkomaas
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    DVLA SUBJECT ACCESS REQUESTS 

    You should email the DVLA and ask which organisations (when and for what reason) accessed the registered keeper's data from them between a range of dates which includes the date(s) of the parking incident(s). You need to provide the registered keeper's full name and address, the address on the V5C logbook and the Vehicle Registration Mark of the vehicle involved in the parking incident. 

    SubjectAccess.Requests@dvla.gov.uk

    This service is free of charge. 

    Even though you email your request, the DVLA will respond via Royal Mail.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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