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Private PCNs issued to people getting COVID19 vaccinations - policy responses from the Trade Bodies

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  • AnotherForumite
    AnotherForumite Posts: 203 Forumite
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    edited 12 January 2021 at 3:13PM
    More like 2nd home owners that think they are above the law.
    Tell me, when you join these companies do you undergo some kind of conditioning process like in the Clockwork Orange or Pavlov's dog?
    Lol, not, per se; however, the conditioning develops extremely quickly from all the fabricated 'poor me' rubbish some people come up with.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,631 Forumite
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    edited 12 January 2021 at 3:24PM
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs

    So, this tells us that you are an apologist who 'works' (loose term) or is a 'director' (loose term, for a scam business) for one of the ex-clamper IPC member firms.  You don't think your APA should respond, then?  Why not?

    What if one of your elderly relatives got £100 extortion demand in the post for having a COVID jab?
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  • beamerguy said:
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs
    If the PPC's have the power to dish out the PCN's they have the power to cancel them.

    I don't know why you continually defend this grubby business.
    The landowner simply contracts the PPC TO MANAGE a car park ...... the PPC never do, they just FARM a car park.  ANPR can never manage a car park

    We must expect PPC's to join in the forum especially as there is not much for them to do right now or the next few months
    Actually, we have never been busier :) 
    just a shame you dont have the balls to say which parking firm you run (although you have narrowed it down to about 3 firms from what you have said)  

    Nice try, I'm no Marty Mcfly.
  • BrownTrout
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    edited 12 January 2021 at 3:32PM
    beamerguy said:
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs
    If the PPC's have the power to dish out the PCN's they have the power to cancel them.

    I don't know why you continually defend this grubby business.
    The landowner simply contracts the PPC TO MANAGE a car park ...... the PPC never do, they just FARM a car park.  ANPR can never manage a car park

    We must expect PPC's to join in the forum especially as there is not much for them to do right now or the next few months
    Actually, we have never been busier :) 
    just a shame you dont have the balls to say which parking firm you run (although you have narrowed it down to about 3 firms from what you have said)  

    Nice try, I'm no Marty Mcfly.
    Like many parking firms they like to hide, if your such a professional firm what do you have to hide? High Street firms dont hide away, why do you lot do so?

  • Snakes_Belly
    Snakes_Belly Posts: 3,704 Forumite
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    More like 2nd home owners that think they are above the law.
    Tell me, when you join these companies do you undergo some kind of conditioning process like in the Clockwork Orange or Pavlov's dog?
    Lol, not, per se; however, the conditioning develops extremely quickly from all the fabricated 'poor me' rubbish some people come up with.
    I guess that is easy when you are conditioned into thinking that what you are doing is OK. Some of those people will be on zero hours, minimum wage contracts and £60.00 will be their food bill for the week. Does that not bother you?

    As for 2nd home owners how do they think that they are above the law?. If they have a second home they are likely to have parking at their property. They will know the area and possibly have a permit for parking in the local towns if they pay council tax. Sounds as if a bit of envy is creeping in there. 

    Nolite te bast--des carborundorum.
  • AnotherForumite
    AnotherForumite Posts: 203 Forumite
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    edited 12 January 2021 at 3:32PM
    beamerguy said:
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs
    If the PPC's have the power to dish out the PCN's they have the power to cancel them.

    I don't know why you continually defend this grubby business.
    The landowner simply contracts the PPC TO MANAGE a car park ...... the PPC never do, they just FARM a car park.  ANPR can never manage a car park

    We must expect PPC's to join in the forum especially as there is not much for them to do right now or the next few months
    Actually, we have never been busier :) 
    just a shame you dont have the balls to say which parking firm you run (although you have narrowed it down to about 3 firms from what you have said)  

    Nice try, I'm no Marty Mcfly.
    Like many parking firms they like to hide, if your such a professional firm what do you have to hide?

    Why does it matter?
  • BrownTrout
    BrownTrout Posts: 2,298 Forumite
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    beamerguy said:
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs
    If the PPC's have the power to dish out the PCN's they have the power to cancel them.

    I don't know why you continually defend this grubby business.
    The landowner simply contracts the PPC TO MANAGE a car park ...... the PPC never do, they just FARM a car park.  ANPR can never manage a car park

    We must expect PPC's to join in the forum especially as there is not much for them to do right now or the next few months
    Actually, we have never been busier :) 
    just a shame you dont have the balls to say which parking firm you run (although you have narrowed it down to about 3 firms from what you have said)  

    Nice try, I'm no Marty Mcfly.
    Like many parking firms they like to hide, if your such a professional firm what do you have to hide?

    Why does it matter?
    Parking Firms like to act the big boys issuing tickets and taking people to court, but not keen when it comes to having their veil removed.
  • beamerguy
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    edited 12 January 2021 at 3:38PM
    Wise to keep a keen eye on the jobs market though, it's very competitive and in your trade, soon their will be no jobs.  The supermarkets are looking for part time security bods, very similar
  • beamerguy said:
    Lets not forget that, generally, the PPC does not make the rules; they simply enforce those requested by the landowner.

    As such, if the landowner wants to charge people to park whilst attending an appointment; it is not for the operator to refuse to provide the service for which they have been contracted.

    Furthermore, it is not the place of an APA to instruct its members to go against the wishes of their clients.

    In other words, its the landowners that need to be lobbied; not the PPCs/APAs
    If the PPC's have the power to dish out the PCN's they have the power to cancel them.

    I don't know why you continually defend this grubby business.
    The landowner simply contracts the PPC TO MANAGE a car park ...... the PPC never do, they just FARM a car park.  ANPR can never manage a car park

    We must expect PPC's to join in the forum especially as there is not much for them to do right now or the next few months
    Actually, we have never been busier :) 
    just a shame you dont have the balls to say which parking firm you run (although you have narrowed it down to about 3 firms from what you have said)  

    Nice try, I'm no Marty Mcfly.
    Like many parking firms they like to hide, if your such a professional firm what do you have to hide?

    Why does it matter?
    Parking Firms like to act the big boys issuing tickets and taking people to court, but not keen when it comes to having their veil removed.
    I sign the claim forms, no hiding here fella.
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