AstraZeneca

soulsaver

AZ have taken orders for at least 2 BILLION doses. Manufacture has been licenced to at least 17 sites/countries around the world. 50 million doses already manufactured in India..
"The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, branded as “Covishield” in India, is being locally produced by the Serum Institute of India (SII), the biggest vaccine manufacturer in the world. "
ETA 5 million 50million!

Apodemus

csgohan4, it's one thing for a craft gin producer to divert their production to handwash but you can't do small-batch vaccine production!

csgohan4

Apodemus said:

csgohan4, it's one thing for a craft gin producer to divert their production to handwash but you can't do small-batch vaccine production!

not saying them specifically, but if the UK banded together during the last WWII making munitions, rack some brains and logistics together and crack on, instead of the procrastination and umming and aweing at the grim stats on deaths every day for goodness sake. 

All this red tape, over regulation/ incompetence e.t.c  is hampering the war efforts. While they sit there doing nothing, people are dying in the very hospitals they are born in

Thrugelmir

soulsaver said:

Thrugelmir said:

soulsaver said:

What is the rationale behind the not-for-profit?

Is profit all that matters? 

I didn't suggest it was - which is clear from my unedited post.
And AZ isn't a charity.

AZ is fully covering it's costs. AZ has never produced a vaccine before. The long term benefits of the internal infrastructure it is creating are immense. 

Tesco has offered both refrigerated transport and warehousing to assist the roll out. As has spare capacity currently. 

Nothing like good PR for companies in these ESG investment times. 

Thrugelmir

IanManc said:

csgohan4 said:

They should ramp up supply, use existing  biotech/other industries which are lying dormant to boost production,
Where are all these biotech industries lying dormant? 
 but in reality this won't happen, probably due to regulatory/ red tape/ guise under 'safety'/ Litigation concerns. 
Or more likely because the biotech industries "lying dormant" don't exist.

Ask Alexa perhaps..............

csgohan4

Thrugelmir said:

soulsaver said:

Thrugelmir said:

soulsaver said:

What is the rationale behind the not-for-profit?

Is profit all that matters? 

I didn't suggest it was - which is clear from my unedited post.
And AZ isn't a charity.

AZ is fully covering it's costs. AZ has never produced a vaccine before. The long term benefits of the internal infrastructure it is creating are immense. 

Tesco has offered both refrigerated transport and warehousing to assist the roll out. As has spare capacity currently. 

Nothing like good PR for companies in these ESG investment times. 

Companies don't all need to help produce vaccines but to help in their way and help the vaccine transport and development indirectly goes a long way. 

Sadly the government's response is lacking, too much talking and not enough action. 

csgohan4

IanManc said:

csgohan4 said:

not saying them specifically, but if the UK banded together during the last WWII making munitions, rack some brains and logistics together and crack on, instead of the procrastination and umming and aweing at the grim stats on deaths every day for goodness sake. 

All this red tape, over regulation/ incompetence e.t.c  is hampering the war efforts. While they sit there doing nothing, people are dying in the very hospitals they are born in

You're making things up again. As other @soulsaver has explained, enormous resources have been devoted to Covid vaccine production across the world.  🙂

Yet india are producing far more than  the tiny amounts we are churning out, is that making something up?
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-india-idUKKBN27S0JB

The oxford vaccine is needed to be imported overseas:
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

https://www.ft.com/content/d97c72c5-ed23-4c2b-bf1c-9cc10b21f007

Resources? The government is doing no way near enough. In fact they are now cancelling the second dose of vaccines in order to vaccinate more with the first dose, meaning not enough supply which is concerning. The pfizer vaccine is not licensed for a 3 month gap for the second dose

Of course these are my opinions, but can you say the government is doing it's best? Remember the PPE fiasco? the wasted money on not fit for use PPE from Turkey for example? Do you need a link for that too?

I'll give it to you too as you need links don't you:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/07/all-400000-gowns-flown-from-turkey-for-nhs-fail-uk-standards

Thrugelmir

csgohan4 said:

IanManc said:

csgohan4 said:

not saying them specifically, but if the UK banded together during the last WWII making munitions, rack some brains and logistics together and crack on, instead of the procrastination and umming and aweing at the grim stats on deaths every day for goodness sake. 

All this red tape, over regulation/ incompetence e.t.c  is hampering the war efforts. While they sit there doing nothing, people are dying in the very hospitals they are born in

You're making things up again. As other @soulsaver has explained, enormous resources have been devoted to Covid vaccine production across the world.  🙂

Yet india are producing far more than  the tiny amounts we are churning out, is that making something up?
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-india-idUKKBN27S0JB

India has companies that produce vaccines already the UK didn't. Hence my infrastructure comment regarding AZ (and indirectly it's supply chains).  

csgohan4

Thrugelmir said:

csgohan4 said:

IanManc said:

csgohan4 said:

not saying them specifically, but if the UK banded together during the last WWII making munitions, rack some brains and logistics together and crack on, instead of the procrastination and umming and aweing at the grim stats on deaths every day for goodness sake. 

All this red tape, over regulation/ incompetence e.t.c  is hampering the war efforts. While they sit there doing nothing, people are dying in the very hospitals they are born in

You're making things up again. As other @soulsaver has explained, enormous resources have been devoted to Covid vaccine production across the world.  🙂

Yet india are producing far more than  the tiny amounts we are churning out, is that making something up?
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-india-idUKKBN27S0JB

India has companies that produce vaccines already the UK didn't. Hence my infrastructure comment regarding AZ (and indirectly it's supply chains).  

Yet 10 months on, the government didn't foresee this? subcontract significant supply overseas?

Thrugelmir

csgohan4 said:

Thrugelmir said:

csgohan4 said:

IanManc said:

csgohan4 said:

not saying them specifically, but if the UK banded together during the last WWII making munitions, rack some brains and logistics together and crack on, instead of the procrastination and umming and aweing at the grim stats on deaths every day for goodness sake. 

All this red tape, over regulation/ incompetence e.t.c  is hampering the war efforts. While they sit there doing nothing, people are dying in the very hospitals they are born in

You're making things up again. As other @soulsaver has explained, enormous resources have been devoted to Covid vaccine production across the world.  🙂

Yet india are producing far more than  the tiny amounts we are churning out, is that making something up?
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-india-idUKKBN27S0JB

India has companies that produce vaccines already the UK didn't. Hence my infrastructure comment regarding AZ (and indirectly it's supply chains).  

Yet 10 months on, the government didn't foresee this? subcontract significant supply overseas?

Foresee what?  The vaccine didn't exist.