AstraZeneca

Alexland

Apparently it was at Professor Gilbert's insistence and while I see the case for the UK government and the developing world getting it at cost I don't see why other developed counties shouldn't pay a fair market price if they get any (maybe they won't). I heard yesterday that France have achieved the milestone of 100 people vaccinated. It's impressive how Israel have now done 7% of their population by running 24x7 centres.

DireEmblem

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

Grenage

I assume that was sarcasm; quite interesting reading on the alleged uptake in France though.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Covid-19-vaccine-Why-France-is-slower-than-other-countries

Alexland

DireEmblem said:

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

It's france - that's about all the people that want the vaccine

bermudianmark

The general market has been depressed by the economic impact of the virus on the economy so whilst the vaccine is very positive for them the general financial situation is dragging in the opposite direction.

csgohan4

Alexland said:

DireEmblem said:

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

It's france - that's about all the people that want the vaccine

Shocking numbers, my local GP  does that in a few hours.

What's this about written consent?? It isn't major surgery people are getting for goodness sake, hiding behind safety and doing things the 'right way'. 

They are just covering up for the fact they have a population sceptic of vaccines in general and their own processes are not helping. 

Sailtheworld

csgohan4 said:

Alexland said:

DireEmblem said:

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

It's france - that's about all the people that want the vaccine

Shocking numbers, my local GP  does that in a few hours.

What's this about written consent?? It isn't major surgery people are getting for goodness sake, hiding behind safety and doing things the 'right way'. 

They are just covering up for the fact they have a population sceptic of vaccines in general and their own processes are not helping. 

My GP's set up a flu jab evening for the over 50s. My heart sank when I arrived as the socially distanced queue was 200m long. However a team of 5 (a greeter plus two tables of a name ticker & injector) were running at a rate of at least 600 per hour by my calculations.

The queue moved at a reasonable walking pace. In the surgery, told to removed coats etc. by the greeter, name ticked off, no sitting down, injection administered and out the back door. 

100 French vaccinations is obviously laughable but the 1,000,000 UK vaccinations isn't good enough either. Apart from getting back to normal opening up the economy sooner than the rest of Europe should give the UK a competitive advantage. I suspect it'll be vaccine availability that proves to be the limiting factor though.

csgohan4

Sailtheworld said:

csgohan4 said:

Alexland said:

DireEmblem said:

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

It's france - that's about all the people that want the vaccine

Shocking numbers, my local GP  does that in a few hours.

What's this about written consent?? It isn't major surgery people are getting for goodness sake, hiding behind safety and doing things the 'right way'. 

They are just covering up for the fact they have a population sceptic of vaccines in general and their own processes are not helping. 

My GP's set up a flu jab evening for the over 50s. My heart sank when I arrived as the socially distanced queue was 200m long. However a team of 5 (a greeter plus two tables of a name ticker & injector) were running at a rate of at least 600 per hour by my calculations.

The queue moved at a reasonable walking pace. In the surgery, told to removed coats etc. by the greeter, name ticked off, no sitting down, injection administered and out the back door. 

100 French vaccinations is obviously laughable but the 1,000,000 UK vaccinations isn't good enough either. Apart from getting back to normal opening up the economy sooner than the rest of Europe should give the UK a competitive advantage. I suspect it'll be vaccine availability that proves to be the limiting factor though.

I think the mass vaccinations in large venues would be more efficient, turn up and get vaccinated. It is inefficient to be done at a GP surgery IMO, with limited space and social distancing and the disruption to normal day to day services this entails. 

how did the Uk did it with the small pox vaccine?

Thrugelmir

soulsaver said:

What is the rationale behind the not-for-profit?

Is profit all that matters? 

Sailtheworld

csgohan4 said:

Sailtheworld said:

csgohan4 said:

Alexland said:

DireEmblem said:

How is 100 people being vaccinated a milestone?

It's france - that's about all the people that want the vaccine

Shocking numbers, my local GP  does that in a few hours.

What's this about written consent?? It isn't major surgery people are getting for goodness sake, hiding behind safety and doing things the 'right way'. 

They are just covering up for the fact they have a population sceptic of vaccines in general and their own processes are not helping. 

My GP's set up a flu jab evening for the over 50s. My heart sank when I arrived as the socially distanced queue was 200m long. However a team of 5 (a greeter plus two tables of a name ticker & injector) were running at a rate of at least 600 per hour by my calculations.

The queue moved at a reasonable walking pace. In the surgery, told to removed coats etc. by the greeter, name ticked off, no sitting down, injection administered and out the back door. 

100 French vaccinations is obviously laughable but the 1,000,000 UK vaccinations isn't good enough either. Apart from getting back to normal opening up the economy sooner than the rest of Europe should give the UK a competitive advantage. I suspect it'll be vaccine availability that proves to be the limiting factor though.

I think the mass vaccinations in large venues would be more efficient, turn up and get vaccinated. It is inefficient to be done at a GP surgery IMO, with limited space and social distancing and the disruption to normal day to day services this entails. 

how did the Uk did it with the small pox vaccine?

For the masses I think that's how they'll do it.

Those at the highest risk of death are probably the least mobile so will need a different solution.

Smallpox took decades to eradicate even after vaccination started in the 1850's but everyone wasn't forced to stay at home while they waited and probably it was limited to the well off in the first instance.