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PCN while in GF's allocated parking bay - permit slipped off dashboard

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  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,186 Forumite
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    My apologies  -  used wrong link
  • zimbo_ouen
    zimbo_ouen Posts: 97 Forumite
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    Good evening all and hope this finds you all well.

    I have got my gf's consent to share her redacted witness statement so again would love to know your thoughts:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/puhw9ql6xyrmm8w/Witness Statement and Exhibits of Witness - Redacted-XX.pdf?dl=0

    Note: The index page numbers don't match up in this redacted version as she removed all the sensitive pages of her lease and agreements etc 

    There is a small overlap of exhibits similiar to mine and if you feel these don't need to be in her one as well, she said she can get them removed. We weren't sure if it was best to cover the same ground twice on each of our statements or if it's only required for one. She did use my one as a bit of a template


  • Fruitcake
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    edited 22 May 2022 at 9:28PM
    It's her WS and exhibits. If the evidence overlaps then it must also back up your points as well, so I suggest she should leave them in.

    I would be very wary of using words suggesting harassment, revenge, or conspiracy.
    I would also remove the comments about other cars not being ticketed.

    Your GF could add a comment in para 18 about the PPC unlawfully operating a for-profit business on her property without her permission. 
    Has your GF complained to the DVLA about this?

    Other than that, I think it is a most excellent WS.


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  • zimbo_ouen
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    Thanks @Fruitcake for reviewing it so promptly

    May I ask why we both can't use those words (it's in mine also) when it really does feel like it is harassment? The 2nd PCN seemed very targeted as no one else seemed to get one despite us still showing a permit till this gets sorted in court




  • Fruitcake
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    Proving harassment is legally a very high bar to reach. By including such comments without proof, you run the risk of alienating the judge, and leaving yourself open to libel.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister. :D
    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
  • zimbo_ouen
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    Fruitcake said:
    It's her WS and exhibits. If the evidence overlaps then it must also back up your points as well, so I suggest she should leave them in.

    I would be very wary of using words suggesting harassment, revenge, or conspiracy.
    I would also remove the comments about other cars not being ticketed.

    Your GF could add a comment in para 18 about the PPC unlawfully operating a for-profit business on her property without her permission. 
    Has your GF complained to the DVLA about this?

    Other than that, I think it is a most excellent WS.



    She's made the amendments and the latest one has been uploaded again with the same link. She has advised she will look into DVLA complaint

    I've also revised mine and removed the harassment words etc

    Thanks again for your review @Fruitcake
  • zimbo_ouen
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    Hey all,

    Firstly, thanks again for all your help to those who have contributed their ideas, suggestions and offered their help. It really is appreciated!

    Secondly, I think we are pretty happy now with both our witness statements and will send them off this week (we are within the timeline needed to send these in still)

    I think we have done as best we can with my defence, and our witness statements and evidence and exhibits, and on the day of the hearing it will be both myself and the girlfriend there at the hearing and have submitted our details previously to the local country court ready for the day

    Unless anyone has any other last minute suggestions for our witness statements and exhibits:
    My WS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qioz3zo5rh0iwt/Witness Statement and Exhibits - Redacted-XX.pdf?dl=0
    My GF's WS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/puhw9ql6xyrmm8w/Witness Statement and Exhibits of Witness - Redacted-XX.pdf?dl=0

    we'll now just wait and see how this all goes...


  • zimbo_ouen
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    edited 25 May 2022 at 9:06AM
    Hey all,

    Quick questions if I may on the signing of the witness statements as we will be emailing this all off soon...

    We have both printed and signed our respective witness statements on the page required and want to know if we scan the whole signed page and insert that as a picture into our WS, or can we snip the signature and dated area and insert that into the document?

    Just want to find out if either way is acceptable and legally valid for this before we send them off

    Also unsure if I am able/need to send both witness statements to the court and Link Parking's solicitors myself, or if my gf needs to send hers separately on her own to them?

    The court hearing instructions/documents don't specifically answer these so wanted to ask here if that's OK
  • Jenni_D
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    Personally I use a digital signature when signing PDF documents. (The digital sig includes an image of my actual written sig).

    However you can replace the signing page in your WS PDF file with the scanned version that shows your physical signature. :)
    Jenni x
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