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  • Michael121
    Michael121 Posts: 166 Forumite
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    Those 48k views on this thread definitely isn't going to pump bitcoin, I'm sure that's per member click as well, I've probably contributed 100 views over the months.
  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,330 Forumite
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    Also I can't think of a worse place to shill Bitcoin than MSE investment forum which is full of hardened investors who want Bitcoin to fail because it will draw trillions out of the stock market.
    I think the BiB illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding, and an example of a worrying trend where everything is seen as binary - it appears for some people we either have to be 'for' bitcoin or 'against' bitcoin, there's no possibility that other people could have a viewpoint somewhere in the middle.

    I'm not a crypto fan, but I don't want Bitcoin to fail.  If it did, it will do collateral damage to things that do matter to me.  I'm particularly concerned that some people out there have got into crypto without really knowing what they are doing, and failure could result in them being financially wiped out. Nobody with a shred of empathy could want that.

    The thing that bugs me though are the folks who only speak of the upsides of crypto, and do so with pseudo-authority gleaned only from watching some YT videos.

    If Bitcoin is to avoid becoming a failure then everyone needs to keep it real, see and agree that there are potential downsides - because relentless pumping is a guaranteed way of ending up with failure. Sooner or later all bubbles burst, and acknowledging that fact is essential to successful investing.
  • Scottex99
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    Yep valid. I’d say most of the disagreements here though come from the pro crypto peeps explaining that it’s not pure shilling that they are doing.

    Of course there are downsides and things that need to work better. Liquid just got hacked for $90m, Poly was hacked for $600m. It’s super volatile and it’s very risky.

    Personally I’ve seen my portfolio lose 30-50% in days/weeks multiple times but then always reach a new ATH. It’s on it’s way to a new one now (it seems).

    Most savvy people in the space talk about BTC 100k and ETH 10k, because of how they see the markets, how the world works, what is being built and how crypto became a Trillion dollar asset class from nowhere. But we don’t expect it to go straight there without a lot of drama first, that’s the difference.

    You also don’t need to swing trade or scalp trade and sit and watch charts all day because you can just DCA some small amounts (always best if you’re new) and forget about it for a few years, I’d be very surprised if you didn’t get a nice return on that although $DYOR of course
  • adindas
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    edited 22 August 2021 at 12:01PM
    The thing that bugs me though are the folks who only speak of the upsides of crypto, and do so with pseudo-authority gleaned only from watching some YT videos..

    Well, I am not quite sure whether you are aware of the state of art of You Tube nowadays. You could literally find almost every credible information, channels, News, interview, conference with well-known figures that you normally watch on Cable TV read on Newspaper but on your convenience time and / or catch-up mode. Many of the important quick news you can not even find on Cable TV.

    Think about CNBC, CNN, Fox Business, FT, Bloomberg, Morningstar, TrustNet, the Motley fool etc you name it. It is there. A few people try to condense the stock market news from various reliable source into a single video so it will save your time rather then spending time watching them one by one.

    It is very convenience as you could easily find / search them in a single platform .

    Certainly, there are a lot of scammers outthere that will try to scam you. But it is entirely up to you how you screen it.

  • PayPal to let UK users buy, sell and hold crypto.

    This will nicely by-pass banks who block crypto purchases.


    https://news.sky.com/story/paypal-to-let-uk-users-buy-hold-and-sell-cryptocurrencies-12388151
  • Zola.
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    Just hit $50,000 again. 
  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    edited 23 August 2021 at 12:03PM

    Zola. said:
    Just hit $50,000 again. 

    Bad luck then for Crypto haters. Cardano (ADA) is the best performing among the major Cryptos.
    There is a recent news where Palantir (PLTR) warns of a "black swan event". Those who do not know Palantir, Palantir is data analytics company using AI and used by many critical organisations such as US department of defence to predict the future occasions.
    Cryptos, Gold might rise even further as people are buying them to hedge against the black swan event.
    Some people are complaining their low investment return, yet keep doing the same thing again and again. If you want to get a better result it is a good to be open minded, open for new ideas including (if necessary) to do thing differently.




  • Zola.
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    Once it breaks that resistance and is off to the races / starts a challenge for 100k, there will be some serious FOMOing. 
  • Malthusian
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    There is a recent news where Palantir (PLTR) warns of a "black swan event". Those who do not know Palantir, Palantir is data analytics company using AI and used by many critical organisations such as US department of defence to predict the future occasions.

    So what exactly is this black swan event and when will it happen?

    No, wait, I forgot - if they knew what it was it wouldn't be a black swan.

    Who needs to make money for old rope when people will pay you money to tell them that you think something bad will happen but you don't know when or what they should do about it?

  • Eco_Miser
    Eco_Miser Posts: 4,819 Forumite
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    Scottex99 said:
    Lol again. Yeah coz i'd waste my time and yours making stuff up for the sake of it?
    There are people who do exactly that. They're called trolls. Apparently they enjoy lying as an art form. We get our share on here.
    You're more persistent than most trolls, but there's no way we can tell you're not, and no way we can tell that you're the guy in the video.

    Eco Miser
    Saving money for well over half a century
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