November 2020 international travel rules

Thrugelmir

Ben1989 said:

I am not worried about the airport. I'm sure they don't care.

It's getting to the airport. We had a hotel booked the night before the flight. No idea if this is still going to be an option, probably not. If not, means travelling at 4am in the morning. This will either work for or against us. Early enough that police might not be checking. But early enough we'll be one of very few cars on the road.

As long as no one will dobs you in. Possibly a far bigger risk. 

epm-84

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Ben1989

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

epm-84

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Yes but if you're travelling from Merseyside there's a risk you transport the virus with you from Merseyside to whatever part of the US you're going to.  Even a negative test pre-departure isn't a 100% guarantee you don't have the virus or that you don't pick it up between the test and travelling out.

Leodogger

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Same for us travelling to Costa Del Sol, where my daughter lives they have hardly had any cases and some villages have had none, all the infection is in the north of Spain.     If the FCDO bans travel out of the country, then the airlines must compensate those who were due to travel but at the moment Michael O'Leary said he is running a skeleton schedule for business travellers and no one will get a refund if they cancel their flights or fail to turn up!!

ToxicWomble

Ben1989 said:

My problem of 'risking it' is that we're travelling to Heathrow from Merseyside. Quite the drive down the motorway!

You shouldn’t even be leaving the area - it’s Tier 3 you know (granted it’s advice, but go into the Royal Liverpool and see the effect this virus is having on the NHS before hand)
Overnight stay in the UK and abroad are banned from the 5th btw (according to various news sources via google)
You probably aren’t going anywhere

silvercar

Ben1989 said:

epm-84 said:

Leodogger said:

bradders1983 said:

Leodogger said:

Further update:   To double check I spoke again to Ryainair chat line and they said they only need passport and tickets to check in but I should contact the embassy in the country I am heading to to check if that is all we will need from their end!    Why the Spanish embassy would want to check why you are entering the country from the UK I don't know.

There are no restrictions on UK nationals entering Spain but do check the details in the 2nd grey box here...

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The chat has told you to check with the embassy as that is their stock answer: all entry requirements are the responsibility of the passenger.

Those are the standard rules which I already knew about but the lockdown introduces new rules which have not been set out by the Gov until now but apparently they are going to issue a more comprehensive set of rules on Wednesday but what's the bet it will just be a confirmation of what we have already been told and as I said, the airports have been given no new guidance since temperatures were introduced after the last lockdown.

The CEO of a travel consultancy firm appeared on Sky News this morning saying reliable industry sources are saying the FCDO is going to issue a new ruling against all non-essential overseas travel effective from 00:01 on Thursday, which will apply UK wide as FCDO responsibilities are not devolved.  He also did specifically say it would be a ban, not just guidance against. It's understood those already abroad on non-essential business won't be asked to return home immediately but he also said many leisure airlines are ready to cancel flights from next week as soon as the FCDO advice is updated, meaning if you go away for 2 weeks on Wednesday you may be stuck there until restrictions in the UK are lifted.

Let's hope not, for selfish reasons. The irony is, where I'll be travelling to, cases and deaths are 12x better than here. I'm safer travelling haha.

Me too! Travelling from a tier 1 area, with a covid test within 48 hours of departure and knowing there will be another test at destination (so hopefully everyone on the flight will have been careful before the second test). Zero covid at destination. I am far safer going than staying here.

sheramber

epm-84 said:

sheramber said:

Last time Tv showed police checking registration numbers on the motorway  and if the registered keeper address  was from out with the county they were stopping them and turning them back. 
 
There has not been time for any decisions to be made at the moment as it was sprung on everybody.

I hope you've reported that incorrectly and what you are describing is in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, not England. If what you are reporting is correct then it would mean a student in Cardiff who has driven from their halls of residence to the local supermarket in their car, would be sent back to their home address, even if it's in Newcastle.  The government guidance for England specifically states students must remain at their term time addresses so many students with cars will be using them outside the area they are registered to.

Why not England?
 What is so special about England?
 It was during the  last lockdown so nothing to do with students. 
   Google brought up this among others  .
https://www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/coronavirus/covid-lockdown-police-checking-key-worker/
Are the police stopping people?

Yes, officers from several police forces have been stopping people in the street to check they are only carrying out essential journeys.

Around 500 extra British Transport Police have been deployed to train stations to check people are only making essential trips.

While, police in Cornwall were among the first forces to stop vehicles to make sure drivers had valid reasons for leaving their homes.

Members of the public in Newquay spotted 'roadblocks' in place, less than 24 hours after the Prime Minister's announcement.

Leodogger

I found what Michael O'Leary has been saying disgusting.   He said anyone that failed to turn up for flights in November despite non-essential travel being banned, would not get a refund and would continue to operate a "business service" schedule yet no doubt the majority of travellers would be holiday makers since most businesses are working from home at the moment.   He said the Gov should refund the money to passengers and not the airline.   I don't care who refunds me but I don't see why I should lose out yet again because of incompetent decisions by Government.   Boris didn't even allow 7 days before the start of the lockdown so I could change my flights without incurring fees on Ryanair flights, so I would lose £140 to change my flights despite the increase on other flights booked.

epm-84

sheramber said:

epm-84 said:

sheramber said:

Last time Tv showed police checking registration numbers on the motorway  and if the registered keeper address  was from out with the county they were stopping them and turning them back. 
 
There has not been time for any decisions to be made at the moment as it was sprung on everybody.

I hope you've reported that incorrectly and what you are describing is in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, not England. If what you are reporting is correct then it would mean a student in Cardiff who has driven from their halls of residence to the local supermarket in their car, would be sent back to their home address, even if it's in Newcastle.  The government guidance for England specifically states students must remain at their term time addresses so many students with cars will be using them outside the area they are registered to.

Why not England?
 What is so special about England?
 It was during the  last lockdown so nothing to do with students. 
   Google brought up this among others  .
https://www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/coronavirus/covid-lockdown-police-checking-key-worker/
Are the police stopping people?

Yes, officers from several police forces have been stopping people in the street to check they are only carrying out essential journeys.

Around 500 extra British Transport Police have been deployed to train stations to check people are only making essential trips.

While, police in Cornwall were among the first forces to stop vehicles to make sure drivers had valid reasons for leaving their homes.

Members of the public in Newquay spotted 'roadblocks' in place, less than 24 hours after the Prime Minister's announcement.

I misread your post, I thought it said last week, meaning during the Welsh lockdown.

The rules are different this time as outdoor recreation has been added to the list of permitted activities and students told to remain at their term time addresses (not the addresses where their cars have been registered.)