Driving without seat belt - Online course or £100 Fixed penalty?

Biggus_Dickus

The OP was asked what the course was actually called but OP doesn’t seem to have re-visited the forum pages since posting the thread starter.

Apparently there is a specific Seat Belt course called “Your Belt Your Life (YBYL) “

https://www.ukroed.org.uk/courses/

The  online course costs £52.80 and takes just 30mins. The alternative for the OP is a fixed penalty fine of £100

 

TooManyPoints

I wonder if those that are anti seat belt are also of the anti mask/face covering variety. 

This is off-topic but since it's been raised, there is a critical difference in your analogy. Seat belts protect nobody other than the user; face coverings provide no protection for the user but, we are told, provide protection for others around him.

AdrianC

TooManyPoints said:

I wonder if those that are anti seat belt are also of the anti mask/face covering variety. 

This is off-topic but since it's been raised, there is a critical difference in your analogy. Seat belts protect nobody other than the user; face coverings provide no protection for the user but, we are told, provide protection for others around him.

They do...

Mutton_Geoff said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2aevh6oZ8

And, as far as masks go... "we are told"?
Isn't it absolutely obvious to anybody except those with serious preconceptions? As mornings get colder, the demonstration of their efficacy will become more visible.
In the meantime...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6cTDGqcUpA

Car_54

TooManyPoints said:

I wonder if those that are anti seat belt are also of the anti mask/face covering variety. 

This is off-topic but since it's been raised, there is a critical difference in your analogy. Seat belts protect nobody other than the user; face coverings provide no protection for the user but, we are told, provide protection for others around him.

Not true. Unbelted people present a serious threat to other occupants of the car in the event of a serious collision.

You really do not want an unbelted 16-stone individual sitting behind you.

DiddyDavies

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TooManyPoints said:

I wonder if those that are anti seat belt are also of the anti mask/face covering variety. 

This is off-topic but since it's been raised, there is a critical difference in your analogy. Seat belts protect nobody other than the user; face coverings provide no protection for the user but, we are told, provide protection for others around him.

Not true. Unbelted people present a serious threat to other occupants of the car in the event of a serious collision.

You really do not want an unbelted 16-stone individual sitting behind you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3InF19dzlM

Scrapit

TooManyPoints said:

I wonder if those that are anti seat belt are also of the anti mask/face covering variety. 

This is off-topic but since it's been raised, there is a critical difference in your analogy. Seat belts protect nobody other than the user; face coverings provide no protection for the user but, we are told, provide protection for others around him.

My face coverings are p3. They absolutely protect me.

facade

Scrapit said:

My face coverings are p3. They absolutely protect me.

But not anyone else, as P3 are the ones with an exhaust valve.

Scrapit

facade said:

Scrapit said:

My face coverings are p3. They absolutely protect me.

But not anyone else, as P3 are the ones with an exhaust valve.

Not bothered. They are ppe with the first p being personal. I wear a mask to protect me, thats what they are for. Also not having covid-hence why Im protecting myself, its not a problem for anyone else either.

AdrianC

You are completely and utterly missing the point of face coverings, going against all advice on face coverings.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/face-masks-valve-n95-vent-breathing-coronavirus-effective-ban-airline-cdc-a9660266.html

Yes, they are PPE - for a completely different job.

You have no way of knowing you do not have covid unless you have had a very recent negative test - 80% of infections are believed to be asymptomatic, and people who are asymptomatic cannot get NHS tests in the UK currently.

If I go into a shop with my strimmer headguard on, I would reasonably expect to be asked to leave... but it's PPE face-covering, and it is every bit as effective as a covid face-covering as your P3 mask is.

neilmcl

facade said:

Scrapit said:

My face coverings are p3. They absolutely protect me.

But not anyone else, as P3 are the ones with an exhaust valve.

There are some P3 masks with valves and there are some without.